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Re: lilyglyphs LaTeX package


From: Urs Liska
Subject: Re: lilyglyphs LaTeX package
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 12:19:48 +0200
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Hi Reinhold, Werner and Philippe,

thanks for your feedback. Here are a few ideas before I finally leave.
[I won't read this list (from tomorrow), so if you want to contact me in the next weeks, please write to address@hidden]

My package works with XeLaTeX because I decided to use this flavor. Actually the possibility to access OpenType fonts and features that way was the final point for my decision to seriously jump into LaTeX use.

As Philippe and Werner pointed out there are ways to use Emmentaler glyphs also in plain LaTeX, but I won't actively go after this.

What I propose, and what I think is quite possible, is:
  • There is the generic access command (\lilyGlyph ATM)
  • This command is then called by the predefined commands (such as e.g. \doublesharp) and can be called within a LaTeX document.
  • If we can manage to keep the interface to this generic command consistent I would be happy to include another 'backend'.
  • I think that the generic access command could become rather an 'interface' command. Depending on an option that can be passed to the package, the interface command would then call the appropriate generic access command.
  • Maybe it's necessary to somehow create a lookup table to map the Type1 numbers to the OpenType glyphnames. I found this for example: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/comp.text.tex/MDzy2xNUC84[1-25] - which could be of help.
  • If that works, everything that comes at a higher level (i.e. the actual glyph commands) could be independent of the used LaTeX flavor.

This has a few consequences:

  • There will be the need for more discussion and design before my prospected first official '0.1' release - but I think it would be worth the time and effort.
  • I won't be able to add new glyphs before this design phase is finished (because I'm afraid of having to update all the commands due to changed syntax). This is principally OK with me, but could cause some headaches because I started all this for a current project - and I think this revision report will be quite long, and I need the glyphs for it ...
  • I probably won't / can't do anything about the 'plain LaTeX backend' - just because I don't know anything about it, and I can't afford the time developing something I won't ever use myself.
  • ATM the stuff of integrating two 'backends' through package options seems over my head (as I'm practically new to LaTeX). Maybe I will learn it on the way, but any assistance in this field would be appreciated.

Best for now
Urs

Am 15.08.2012 17:34, schrieb Urs Liska:
Hi list,

this is somewhat OT, but only slightly, I think.
In need to insert music glyphs in continuous text (for writing a revision report) I successfully found out how to insert glyphs from LilyPond's Emmentaler font in (Xe)LaTeX documents and wrote a few first commands (thanks to Google and Werner Lemberg).

As this may well be useful for anybody writing about music with LaTeX, I decided to make a package out of it. The project is hosted at https://github.com/uliska/lilyglyphs.

The package is already useable, but there will be some syntax changes in the near future, so I'd rather not use it extensively (you can see the issues in the tracker to get an impression).

For now there are a few predefined commands for glyphs, and a generic command to access glyphs by their name, so anything should already be possible.

In the download section there is a pdf that documents how it works so far and also gives a good impression on what it looks like.
You may either clone into the repository or download the package archive from the download page. So far there aren't any useful installation instructions, but I think it should work. You can place a symlink to the .sty file and a symlink to the definitions/ directory in the directory of your .tex file, and it should work.

I will be away for two weeks but would be happy to find a few collaborators afterwards to join the project.
a) there are a few issues that I would prefer not to decide alone but rather discuss,
b) a few issues with LaTeX programming where I'd appreciate some help, and
c) the ultimate goal is to cover the whole glyph set, but this will only become reality with several contributors. I will happily work on glyphs that I use personally, but there are so many things I won't use ...

I hope this is on interest to anybody. Please feel free to forward this message to whom it may concern ...

Best
Urs

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