I won't be in Genoa but just wanted to let you know about the (Free) Software Licensing and Legislation Masters module I started running this year at my university. I'm attaching the outline of the course. I deliberately didn't deal with patents this year because none of my students had a background in IP law but will make some changes in this respect next year.
My experience was interesting and very rewarding. My dilemma was where to start. My experience has been that the minute you talk to lawyers about "property" there is a mental block about free software-style development. Instead I started with a background in free software (tailored, of course, to the fact that this is part of the Masters on Commercial Law). The students were quite resistant to the idea of not needing direct economic "incentive" at first and what really finally "released" them from this prejudice, was showing them the Euronews video about free software in Extremadura. I will run this course again and will also be lecturing at undergraduate level in the Cyberlaw course next year. I "control" the intellectual property side of things and, again, will be emphasising free software licensing, Creative Commons licensing as a viable alternative, indeed, a potentially better choice, than traditional ways of doing
things. I have a great deal of academic freedom where I am based and would welcome any comments, information, criticism, etc., from this list.
One more thing, I seem to have set up this list so I only get messages every so often and I haven't managed to change it. I'd like to get messages daily - could someone email me direct at
address@hidden and tell me how to change this? Thanks.
Maureen O'Sullivan,
Lecturer in Software Licensing and Legislation, Cyberlaw and Land Law,
University of the West of England,
Bristol, UK.
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Future meetings [was: Proposed agenda for the MoLOS
meeting in Stuttgart] (Martin Michlmayr)
2. Re: Future meetings (David Megias)
3. Re: Future meetings [was: Proposed agenda for the MoLOS
meeting in Stuttgart] (Renzo Davoli)
4. Re: Proposed agenda for the MoLOS meeting in Stuttgart
(Cornelia
Boldyreff)
5. Participation in panel about postgratuate studies on libre
software in OSS2005 (Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona)
6. Re: Participation in panel about postgratuate studies on
libre software in OSS2005 (Martin Michlmayr)
7. Re: Participation in panel about postgratuate studies on
libre software in OSS2005 (Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona)
8. Re: Participation in panel about postgratuate studies on
libre software in OSS2005 (Cornelia Boldyreff)
9. Libre Software Meeting - Dijon, July, 5th to July, 9th
(Eric Cousin)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:55:24 +0100
From: Martin Michlmayr
Subject: Re: [Masterlibre-list] Future meetings [was: Proposed agenda
for the MoLOS meeting in Stuttgart]
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* Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona [2005-06-14 00:19]:
> time to this. Probably the best moment would be the day after the
> educational symposium. We finish the afternoon with a panel about
> studies on libre software. Right after that we could have our own BOF,
> or just leave together to have some beers ;-) I could also meet in the
> late afternoon of the day before, I guess.
On the afternoon the day before is imho better since it's more likely
that people will be around (since that's when the main conference is
and those arriving for the open educational conference will probably
turn up a day early anyway).
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Martin Michlmayr
http://www.cyrius.com/
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:24:39 +0200
From: David Megias
Subject: Re: [Masterlibre-list] Future meetings
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Hi everyone,
> On the afternoon the day before is imho better since it's more likely
> that people will be around (since that's when the main conference is
> and those arriving for the open educational conference will probably
> turn up a day early anyway).
Unfortunately, I won't be able to attend the conference in Genova since
I have another conference in Florida. However, my colleague Jordi Serra
will attend the conference and the Open Educational Symposium, but I
think he has arranged the trip to leave when the same day that the
Symposium finishes, so it will be better if the MoLOS meeting can take
place the day before.
As the GUADEC conference is taken into account, I think I'll wait for
Anne and François comments and then I'll add my own ones ;). I think
there is
not too much to say, since we were the only three members of
the MoLOS group in Stuttgart.
Cheers,
David
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Estudis d'Informatica i Multimedia
Universitat Oberta de Catalunya
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:52:14 +0200
From: address@hidden (Renzo Davoli)
Subject: Re: [Masterlibre-list] Future meetings [was: Proposed agenda
for the MoLOS meeting in Stuttgart]
To: Martin Michlmayr
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> On the afternoon the day before is imho better since it's more likely
> that people will be around
(since that's when the main conference is
> and those arriving for the open educational conference will probably
> turn up a day early anyway).
I agree with Martin.
I'll be in Genoa but unfortunately I have to return home in the night
between 13th and 14th as I have to give a lecture in my master
10AM July 14th.
renzo
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:36:37 +0100 (BST)
From: Cornelia Boldyreff
Subject: Re: [Masterlibre-list] Proposed agenda for the MoLOS meeting
in Stuttgart
To: address@hidden
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I'm planning to be at OSS2005, but during this time, also have the CALIBRE
review.
Cornelia
Cornelia Boldyreff, Ph.D., FBCS
Professor of Software Engineering
Department of
Computing and Informatics
Faculty of Technology (MHAC MC3119)
University of Lincoln
Brayford Pool
Lincoln LN6 7TS
www: http://hemswell.lincoln.ac.uk/~cboldyreff/
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, AnneØstergaard wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-06-11 at 01:04 +0200, Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Anyone who could attend, could summarize how it was?
>
> I will try to get the time next week to write the minutes from our
> meeting and from the presentations and the round table.
>
> We did not set a time for the next meeting in Genova as it is important
> that those who can attend has a say here.
>
> Who plans to go to Genova?
>
> Best regards
>
> Anne
>
>
> >
> > Saludos,
> >
> > Jesus.
> >
> > On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 19:18 +0200, Anne Østergaard wrote:
> > > Next meeting
> >
>
> > > during www.guadec.org:
> > >
> > > Proposed agenda for the MoLOS meeting in Stuttgart on Monday afternoon
> > > May 30th 2005
> > >
> > > Time: 13.00 - 15.00 (or longer:)
> > >
> > > Place: Haus der Wirtschaft (in the main Conference Building)
> > >
> > > We can not be sure of having Internet access in the meeting room.
> > >
> > > 1. Short presentation of the attendants
> > >
> > > 2. Preparing of the presentations and panel debate for Tuesday 31st of
> > > May.
> > >
> > > 3. News from the countries about the advancement of The MoLOS (Master on
> > > Libre and Open Source Software) project
> > >
> > > 4. Update on the organisation of the curriculum development: relevant
> > > dates, proposed schedule, web infrastructure,
participants (will include
> > > general discussion)- Who will take this item?
> > >
> > > 5. Current experiences in high education related to libre software
> > > (short presentations by institutions which are already offering
> > > programmes or subjects on libre software).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please add your name and institution if you are attending GUADEC 6
> > > meeting on Monday and /or Tuesday:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > * Cornelia Boldyreff, UK
> > >
> > > * David Megias, ES
> > >
> > > * Francois Pellegrini, FR
> > >
> > > * Anne Østergaard, DK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 6. Next events where many participants will be able to meet: Genova,
> > >
Bologna, Summer School at Castellon (Spain)....Please add more
> > > information.
> > >
> > > 7. Miscellaneous
> > >
> > > End of the meeting
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > >
> > > Anne Østergaard
> > > GNOME Foundation
> > > Phone:
> > > 00 45 35 42 88 73
> > >
> --
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>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:11:17 +0200
From: "Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona"
Subject: [Masterlibre-list] Participation in panel about postgratuate
studies on libre software in OSS2005
To:
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Hi all,
I know several of you have already shown interest in participating in
the panel about postgrad studies on libre software in OSS2005. To
organize things a bit, here you have some more context. I'd like you to
confirm that you can participate, and in that case, which presentation
(title) will you deliver (for now, I have that of the UOC, which will
also be in the proceedings).
The context:
- The panel will last for about two-three hours, depending on how many
people want to make presentations (I'd vote for two hours with an open,
flexible finish time).
- It will probably be after lunch
- The panel would start with a presentation (by me, if you agree) of the
MoLOS group, invitation to join, brief description of the work done,
etc.
- Then we would have presentations of about 10 min (even less if
there
were a lot of them, some like 15 min. if there were four or less)
- After the presentations, panel (I can act as a moderator, probably we
can previously sketch some interesting issues to raise), including
questions from the attendants.
Any comment will be of course appreciated.
Saludos,
Jesus.
PS: I know some of you will be at the Calibre meeting that day. If you
would like to attend the panel too, let me know. I'd like to try to
coordinate this with Brian, maybe we can find some scheduluing solution.
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Message: 6
Date:
Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:26:38 +0100
From: Martin Michlmayr
Subject: Re: [Masterlibre-list] Participation in panel about
postgratuate studies on libre software in OSS2005
To: "Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona"
Cc: address@hidden
Message-ID: <address@hidden>
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* Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona [2005-06-17 01:11]:
> The context:
>
> - The panel will last for about two-three hours, depending on how many
Which day is that on?
--
Martin Michlmayr
http://www.cyrius.com/
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:43:01 +0200
From: "Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona"
Subject: Re: [Masterlibre-list] Participation in panel about
postgratuate studies on libre software in OSS2005
To: Martin Michlmayr
Cc: address@hidden
Message-ID: <address@hidden>
Content-Type: text/plain
Ooops. I forgot the most important information. On July 14th.
http://oss2005.case.unibz.it/program.html#Open
Saludos,
Jesus.
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 00:26 +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona [2005-06-17 01:11]:
> > The context:
> >
> > - The panel will last for about two-three hours, depending on how many
>
> Which day is that on?
--
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address@hidden / address@hidden | ESCET, Uni. Rey Juan Carlos
tel: +34 91 664 74 67 | c/ Tulipan s/n
fax: +34 91 488 70 49 | 28933 Mostoles,
Spain
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:34:07 +0100 (BST)
From: Cornelia Boldyreff
Subject: Re: [Masterlibre-list] Participation in panel about
postgratuate studies on libre software in OSS2005
To: "Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona"
Cc: address@hidden
Message-ID:
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Jesus,
I'd like to be involved but I'll also have the CALIBRE review.
Cornelia
Cornelia Boldyreff, Ph.D., FBCS
Professor of Software Engineering
Department of Computing and Informatics
Faculty of Technology (MHAC MC3119)
University of Lincoln
Brayford Pool
Lincoln LN6 7TS
www: http://hemswell.lincoln.ac.uk/~cboldyreff/
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I
know several of you have already shown interest in participating in
> the panel about postgrad studies on libre software in OSS2005. To
> organize things a bit, here you have some more context. I'd like you to
> confirm that you can participate, and in that case, which presentation
> (title) will you deliver (for now, I have that of the UOC, which will
> also be in the proceedings).
>
> The context:
>
> - The panel will last for about two-three hours, depending on how many
> people want to make presentations (I'd vote for two hours with an open,
> flexible finish time).
>
> - It will probably be after lunch
>
> - The panel would start with a presentation (by me, if you agree) of the
> MoLOS group, invitation to join, brief description of the work done,
> etc.
>
> - Then we would have presentations of about 10 min (even less if there
> were a lot of them, some like
15 min. if there were four or less)
>
> - After the presentations, panel (I can act as a moderator, probably we
> can previously sketch some interesting issues to raise), including
> questions from the attendants.
>
> Any comment will be of course appreciated.
>
> Saludos,
>
> Jesus.
>
> PS: I know some of you will be at the Calibre meeting that day. If you
> would like to attend the panel too, let me know. I'd like to try to
> coordinate this with Brian, maybe we can find some scheduluing solution.
>
> --
> Contribute to keep Europe free of software patents!
> EuropeSwPatentFree - http://EuropeSwPatentFree.hispalinux.es
> -----
> Jesus M. Gonzalez Barahona | GSyC (DIET)
> address@hidden / address@hidden | ESCET, Uni. Rey Juan Carlos
> tel: +34 91 664 74 67 | c/ Tulipan s/n
> fax: +34 91 488 70 49 | 28933 Mostoles,
Spain
>
>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:14:19 +0200
From: Eric Cousin
Subject: [Masterlibre-list] Libre Software Meeting - Dijon, July, 5th
to July, 9th
To: address@hidden
Cc: address@hidden
Message-ID: <address@hidden>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
Hi,
After the Guadec meeting, and just before the Genova meeting, there will be
another opportunity to talk about postgratuatestudies on libre software.
We are organizing a special session on this topic within the next "Libre
Software Meeting" that will take place in
Dijon (France) the first week of
July (see
http://2005.rencontresmondiales.org/sections/index_html/switchLanguage/en)
[Note : the official language of this event is french]
Here is a brief description of what we intend to talk about in this session
(http://rencontresmondiales.org/sections/conference/formation_au_libre_dans) :
"Within about twenty years, the concept of Libre software - as originaly
defined by the Free Software Foundation (see
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html)
- has been gradually structured, and has now reached maturity. The
knowledge related to Libre software is already considerable, and growing.
But one can hardly find whole curricula specifically dedicated to - or
built upon - the Libre paradigm. Yet, we think that pure technical know-how
about just a set of tools, even if well chosen, is far from being
sufficient to understand, and benefit from, the
whole power of the Libre
paradigm. We feel there is a need for new curricula which would encompass
all aspects of the paradigm.
Furthermore, any activity in the so-called Information Society is requiring
"Libre-awareness" more and more, if not specific abilities. That's why we
are also advocating Libre paradigm to be paid much more attention within
curricula, not only in a software engineering perspective, but also in a
business/economic, a law/judicial or socio-cultural perspective.
Lastly, we also want to investigate how the Libre paradigm could be used as
a « pedagogical prism ». Anyone studying the Libre paradigm per se has
experienced how he/she was often led to consider many different concerns
(economic, business, property rights, ...). This is due to the tranversal
nature of the Libre paradigm: it calls into questions so many topics! Using
a Libre perspective as a lever to understand many other concerns in a
course
will therefore also be debated."
This session is not schedule yet, but local organization wish to fit it in
a 1h/1h30 slot. We'll therefore try to set up a debate within this slot,
and propose to have further discussions/work in another room if enough
persons are interested.
For sure, if somebody in this list happens to come to the LSM, she/he will
be welcome.
Anyway :
1) In our introductory talk, we'll invite people to join the MoLOSS effort;
2) In our introductory talk, we'll mention examples of cursus focused on
the Libre paradigm (some have already been talk about on this list) ; if
you wish to have "yours" being somewhat "advertized", let us know ;->
3) If you have any specific question/topic to suggest to be debated, please
let us know
4) We'll try our best to report what was said in the session on this list.
Hope to see some of you in
Dijon
Eric
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