[Pan-users] Re: Problems with some replies

[HarryB]

On Thursday 11 December 2008 12:50:40 pm HarryB wrote:
> New Pan (v0.132) user, running under Debian 4.0 and KDE 3.5.10.
>
> I have been able to post a new message to the newsgroup rec.bicycles.tech
> and one or two replies, but additional replies fail because the server
> rejects them and returns the following error: "441 Posting Failed (Rejected
> by POST filter)" .
>
> I tried the same in 0.test and the results were the same: I could post at
> least one reply to my initial message, but subsequent replies failed.
>
> So, I booted into Windows and fired up Free Agent, my old newsreader. I was
> able to reply without a problem. So, it appears that the problem is with
> Pan and not my news server, bellsouth.net.
>
> What doesn't my news server like about Pan's replies?
>
> TIA,
> Harry
>
>
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I called my ISP and talked with someone in technical support about the problem 
I was having with Pan. I explained to her that based on what I was told, 
there is a problem with the filter on their NNTP server. After a couple of 
moments of silence, she asked if I could please spell that for her, which I 
did. Hey, I even know what NNTP stands for, but that didn't help her either.

Then I made a colossal mistake because I mentioned that I am running Pan under 
Linux. I was informed that Bellsouth doesn't offer tech support for Linux. To 
make a rather long story short, she finally gave me an email address where I 
could send my question.

Ok, so I started composing my question and decided to do some more tinkering 
to refresh my memory. And I found a difference between the way Free Agent and 
Pan puts information in the References area. FA puts them all on the same 
line with a single space between the IDs. So, FA's References looks like 
this: References: <ID> <ID> <ID> etc.

But, Pan's looks different. Pans puts the references on a separate line and 
appears to have a tabbed space before each ID. Here is a sample [1] of one 
header:

From: HarryB <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: Pan Troubleshooting 2
Newsgroups: alt.test
References: <address@hidden>
        <address@hidden>
        <address@hidden>
        <address@hidden>
X-Draft-Attribution: On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:01:03 +0000, HarryB wrote:
X-Draft-Attribution-Author: HarryB <address@hidden>
X-Draft-Attribution-Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:01:03 +0000
X-Draft-Attribution-Id: address@hidden
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Removing the tabbed space before the individual IDs allows the message to be 
posted, but it doesn't end up in the proper place in the thread.

I don't know if this makes any difference, but it is something I noticed. 
Before I send my question to tech support I would like to see if someone 
thinks this is a problem, or it is only something I see, but the server 
wouldn't notice.

Cheers,
Harry

[1] Since Duncan mentioned that he doesn't read these messages as email, he 
might not be able to see this example properly. Here is the sample again, but 
I have put a space before each @ symbol:
From: HarryB <HarryB @bellsouth.com>
Subject: Re: Pan Troubleshooting 2
Newsgroups: alt.test
References: <pan.2008.12.12.20.02.56 @nospam.net>
        <zgV0l.7427$M01.4687 @bignews3.bellsouth.net>
        <smV0l.7429$M01.205 @bignews3.bellsouth.net>
        <joV0l.7432$M01.5124 @bignews3.bellsouth.net>
X-Draft-Attribution: On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:01:03 +0000, HarryB wrote:
X-Draft-Attribution-Author: HarryB <HarryB @bellsouth.com>
X-Draft-Attribution-Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:01:03 +0000
X-Draft-Attribution-Id: joV0l.7432$M01.5124 @bignews3.bellsouth.net
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit