Re: [Pan-users] 'Old' Pan (pan-0.14.2.91-4mdk.i586.rpm): No longer installs (Mageia)

[Steven D'Aprano]

On 17/12/12 05:06, Duncan wrote:

> What /might/ be a problem, however, is the "pseudo-newsgroup" setup old-
> pan used for its saved and sent messages folders.  There's nothing like
> that in new-pan.  Instead, messages are saved in-place in the newsgroup,

There is no "might" about it. This is absolutely a problem. Just because
a post is sent doesn't mean that it is received. I have lost multiple
large posts, with no way to recreate them, because I've sent a post but it
was never received by the newserver, or dropped, or *something* went wrong
and it was lost.

NNTP is not a guaranteed delivery service. It has even fewer guarantees
than email: with email, at least, you can expect a bounce message if your
post is not deliverable. (Even that is not a guarantee though.)

This is one area that Pan is, frankly, stuck badly in the 1980s. It truly
is shocking that Pan keeps no record of sent posts. Even more shocking is
that Pan's handling of the Save Draft command is stuck back in the 1970s:
I have lost more than one draft because I have accidentally entered the
file name of an existing draft when saving, and Pan *didn't* ask for
confirmation before overwriting the file.

(Disclaimer: I am using Pan 0.133 because that is the version offered by
my distro's package management system.)



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Steven