RE: [Phpgroupware-developers] Re: phpgw projects module

[Brian Johnson]

I'm one of the people who have made some changes to timetrack and am
interested in making more changes

My priorities right now are a better contact system (likely tying in with
the addbook module) and creating invoices from time spent

Perhaps everyone looking at timetrack should coordinate what each is doing
to avoid duplication and incompatibilities so we can work as a group in a
common direction

I'm new at this, perhaps a feature list should be developed and tasks
assigned to different groups (with tasks divided partially based on what
files would be modified?)

Anyone willing to provide some administrative help on how to organize this
(potential mess)?




> -----Original Message-----
> From: address@hidden
> [mailto:address@hidden Behalf Of Bob Schader
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: address@hidden; 'David Kelly'
> Subject: RE: [Phpgroupware-developers] Re: phpgw projects module
>
>
> David,
>
> I have your original email to me personally at home, am replying
> to this one because I'm at work.
>
> I take it that by stating you plan to add in/out board and timesheet
> capabilities to timetrack, that you mean you plan on expanding
> on these capabilities that already exist in timetrack?
>
> There are currently 2 other developers I know of that are working on
> timetrack since I personally do not have the resources (time and
> motivation) to continue working on it at this point. Hopefully,
> they will see these posts and contact you. They are working towards
> integration of Projects/Timetrack or something like that.
>
> As I stated in the past, I believe the first thing that needs to be
> done with Timetrack is to redo it for templates so that it will
> continue to work with the ongoing changes in phpgw and to make
> changing the ui easier. Probably 50% of it has been converted to
> templates, but more changes will be needed as the templating
> direction of phpgw changes.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Bob Schader
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: address@hidden
> > [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of
> > address@hidden
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:00 AM
> > To: David Kelly
> > Cc: address@hidden
> > Subject: [Phpgroupware-developers] Re: phpgw projects module
> >
> >
> >
> > hey David,
> > your suggestions sound good. there already are some guys working on
> > timetracker. also i got some more mails from people which
> > want to improve the projects app. i sent this mail to the phpgw
> > developers-list as well, so you can get in touch with other
> > people working
> > on this area. please have a look at our mailing list
> archive as well.
> > im sure intested in a better intergration of timetracker
> and projects.
> > since im busy with other parts of phpgw, the only plan i
> have for the
> > projects app is to change the statistic part to use a
> > graphically view.
> > projects is already used by alot of people, so i would not
> > like to drop
> > features which are already there.
> >
> > grtx. ceb
> >
> > > Hi Bettina,
> > >
> > > My name is David Kelly.  I am one of the Development Team
> > Leaders at a New
> > > Zealand based company called Zeald (http://www.zeald.com).
> >  We have being
> > > using phpgroupware internally within our organisation for
> > about a year.
> > >
> > > On the whole we have found phpgroupware to be a great web
> > application.   One
> > > area where the application has lacked for our company is in
> > the area of
> > > project management and time tracking.
> > > Over the past few weeks I have done quite a bit of analysis
> > on this issue and
> > > we have decided to develop a solution that will allow us to
> > manage our
> > > projects and track our time more effectively.  Rather than
> > writing whole new
> > > timetracking and project management modules we would like
> > to just alter the
> > > existing timetrack and project management modules so that
> > the whole of the
> > > phpgroupware community can benefit from the work.
> > >
> > > I have included a brief description of some of the
> > alterations that we are
> > > proposing below.
> > >
> > > *  Project and Jobs
> > > When a user is entering a project and the associated jobs
> > within a project
> > > into groupware, the user specifies what are the allowable
> > billable and
> > > bookable activities for the job.  It would be good if the
> > user could specify
> > > exactly how much time for each activity is estimated.   For
> > example, if 'php
> > > coding' is a selected billable activity that is billed at a
> > rate of $80 per
> > > hour then it would good to be able to specify that it is
> > estimated that 25
> > > hrs of 'php coding' is gonna be required.  This would
> > effectively allow
> > > quotes to be built using the projects module and when
> > coupled with the
> > > 'work-hours' section would allow the project manager to
> > analyse their project
> > > to see which parts are coming within budget, which parts
> > are blowing out and
> > > so on.
> > >
> > > *  Work Hours / Timesheet.
> > > Allow an employee to enter a timesheet for the days work.
> > This would allow
> > > the employee to record exactly what job they worked on and
> > what activity they
> > > were doing within that job.   The current work-hours
> > section already supports
> > > this but it would good if it can be tweaked into a more
> > spreadsheet type view
> > > so that data for the whole day can be entered quickly and
> > efficiently.  Not
> > > sure whether this would be better implemented in the
> > projects module or the
> > > time-tracking module.
> > >
> > > That is pretty much it.   All round we would like to
> > integrate the time-track
> > > and project management modules a lot more so that they work
> > more closely
> > > together.
> > >
> > > I have a much more detailed spec for each of the things
> > that I have outlined
> > > above if you are interested.   I have not included it
> here as I just
> > really
> > > wanted to get an idea of how you feel regarding this.
> > >
> > > Look forward to your reply.
> > >
> > > Take care
> >
> >
> >
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