Re: [playogg-discuss] Flash - was - Re: playogg-discuss Digest, Vol 13, Issue 2

[VolodyA! V Anarhist]

ineiev wrote:
> Glad to see you, VolodyA!!
>
> VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote:
> > You have probably missed the whole HTML5 fiasco. Ogg was going to be 
> > included in HTML specifications, so that people could use that for 
> > their audio/video and know for sure that it will be played on any 
> > machine. But Apple, Nokia, and some others demanded that the standard 
> > doesn't specify Ogg, thus making the whole thing useless.
>
> For increasing my literateness: is the whole thing HTML5 or Ogg
> (or both)?

Well, HTML5 has just brought the Ogg debate to light. The point is not only 
about HTML5, but also about browsers using Ogg out of the box, YouTube using 
Ogg, etc.

Ogg was going to be included in HTML5 spec. There was going to be a statement 
along the lines of: the media inside <video> or <audio> tags must be in Ogg 
(thus making video Theora+Vorbis and audio mostly Vorbis).

Currently Firefox (and thus IceCat, IceWeasel, etc), Opera will only support Ogg 
inside those tags (as was originally planned), Google Chrome will support both 
Ogg and MP4, Safari will only support MP4, and iirc IE will not support those 
tags at all.

Flash is out of the equation all together.

This whole issue is how i found PlayOgg campaign actually q;-)=

On this issue:
http://anarchismtoday.org/News/article/sid=155.html
http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2009/09/myths-debunked-youtube-please-use-ogg.html
http://www.fsdaily.com/Community/Ogg_Theora_Vorbis_as_default_for_video_scuttled_in_HTML5_spec_Who_benefits

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