Hi,
nice discussion… I throw in my cents also.
I think the idea of some stable and unstable versions is a good one. On MacOS Jeremy offers two versions for pspp via macports.
pspp - This is the stable version 0.8.5 pspp-devel - This is updated from time to time from Bens nighlty builds. Currently called 0.9.0_11 (0.9.0-g958e78)
So you can choose between those two and I think this is nice. 0.9.0 is a major rework because it is moving from gtk2 to gtk3. And there are a still issues due to this step, e.g. the slowness with many variables or that you cannot edit text partly in the data gui. Last week I could crash the software. At the same time new features are added to this master branch.
Before releasing 0.8.5 there were at least some discussions if this should be a release. For example at that point of time we did not know about open bugs that we thought should be fixed. Nobody even ever thinks about the quality of 0.9.0-g958e78. I am not even sure if somebody checks if the regression fails for this. But the regression does not cover the gui, except some crash tests.
Still we do not maintain a stable release, i.e. really add bugfixes to that version. I guess this is mainly due to additional efforts. But we consider 0.8.5 more stable, because we have a feeling about what we are doing in the master branch currently. I guess we are at least quite sure the 0.9.0 will not format your drive.
I am the maintainer of the pspp debian package. The debian package is the basis all major linux distributions, e.g. Ubuntu and all derivates. The debian package is currently build on 21 debian system platforms:
I started with mainting pspp on debian because nobody was doing it and it was given up. That is the reason why 0.7.9 was the version available in these distributions.
I find it very helpful to have something called „stable“. I think users should be made aware of what they are using and Johns hints help you to be aware… Maybe a hint on the windows distribution site would also be helpful. At the moment I find four versions for download
Best regards
Friedrich
John,
It sounds like I'm wasting your time appealing to your sympathies
for >90% of the software users world-wide. That's fine.
On 2/24/2016 2:20 PM, John Darrington wrote:
Pspp builds fine for me on a stable Debian release. If you can provide
details of the problem preventing you from building on CentOS we will try
to address that.
I think it's no more complex than PSPP having library requirements
that CentOS 6 will never meet (without developer-level efforts). We
can also see that PSPP's requirements are accelerating away from
CentOS 6. Here are the details:
./confgure on pspp-0.8.5 produces:
configure: error: The following required
prerequisites are not installed.
You must install them before PSPP can be built:
glib 2.0 version 2.32 or later (or use
--without-gui)
address@hidden pspp-0.8.5]$ rpm -qi glib2
Name : glib2 Relocations: (not
relocatable)
Version : 2.28.8 Vendor: CentOS
Release : 4.el6 Build Date: Wed 15 Oct
2014 01:33:45 PM CDT
Install Date: Thu 11 Dec 2014 09:14:21 AM CST Build Host:
c6b8.bsys.dev.centos.org
Group : System Environment/Libraries Source RPM:
glib2-2.28.8-4.el6.src.rpm
Size : 8047174 License: LGPLv2+
Signature : RSA/SHA1, Fri 17 Oct 2014 03:02:33 PM CDT, Key ID
0946fca2c105b9de
Packager : CentOS BuildSystem <http://bugs.centos.org>
URL : http://www.gtk.org
Summary : A library of handy utility functions
Description :
GLib is the low-level core library that forms the basis for
projects
such as GTK+ and GNOME. It provides data structure handling for C,
portability wrappers, and interfaces for such runtime
functionality
as an event loop, threads, dynamic loading, and an object system.
This is the latest version of glib2 provided for CentOS 6.
./configure on pspp-0.9.0-g072d1b produces this:
configure: error: The following required
prerequisites are not installed.
You must install them before PSPP can be built:
gtk+ 3.0 version 3.4.2 or later (or use
--without-gui)
gtksourceview 3.0 version 3.4.2 or later (or use
--without-gui)
glib 2.0 version 2.32 or later (or use
--without-gui)
address@hidden pspp-0.9.0-g072d1b]$ rpm -qi gtk2 gtksourceview2
Name : gtk2 Relocations: (not
relocatable)
Version : 2.24.23 Vendor: CentOS
Release : 6.el6 Build Date: Fri 17 Oct
2014 04:22:08 AM CDT
Install Date: Thu 11 Dec 2014 09:14:37 AM CST Build Host:
c6b9.bsys.dev.centos.org
Group : System Environment/Libraries Source RPM:
gtk2-2.24.23-6.el6.src.rpm
Size : 12452995 License: LGPLv2+
Signature : RSA/SHA1, Fri 17 Oct 2014 03:01:59 PM CDT, Key ID
0946fca2c105b9de
Packager : CentOS BuildSystem <http://bugs.centos.org>
URL : http://www.gtk.org
Summary : The GIMP ToolKit (GTK+), a library for creating GUIs
for X
Description :
GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user
interfaces. Offering a complete set of widgets, GTK+ is suitable
for
projects ranging from small one-off tools to complete application
suites.
Name : gtksourceview2 Relocations: (not
relocatable)
Version : 2.8.2 Vendor: CentOS
Release : 4.el6 Build Date: Thu 11 Nov
2010 10:43:31 PM CST
Install Date: Fri 11 Nov 2011 03:45:16 PM CST Build Host:
c5b2.bsys.dev.centos.org
Group : System Environment/Libraries Source RPM:
gtksourceview2-2.8.2-4.el6.src.rpm
Size : 2961012 License: LGPLv2+
and GPLv2+
Signature : RSA/8, Sat 02 Jul 2011 11:20:47 PM CDT, Key ID
0946fca2c105b9de
Packager : CentOS BuildSystem <http://bugs.centos.org>
URL : http://gtksourceview.sourceforge.net/
Summary : A library for viewing source files
Description :
GtkSourceView is a text widget that extends the standard GTK+
GtkTextView widget. It improves GtkTextView by implementing
syntax highlighting and other features typical of a source code
editor.
This package contains version 2 of GtkSourceView. The older
version
1 is contains in the gtksourceview package.
There is no package for CentOS 6 that supplies GTK+ 3 or
gtksourceview 3 and glib 2.28.8 is the latest glib for CentOS 6.
-Alan
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