Re: [Savannah-help-public] Mis-posting to gnuspeech mail list

[Sylvain Beucler]

I'll have a look.

-- 
Sylvain

On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 09:33:15AM -0800, David Hill wrote:
> Dear Savannah Hackers,
>
> There is an ongoing problem with one of our posters to the gnuspeech mail 
> archive and I do not seem to have any means to resolve the problem.
>
> Basically, Vikas Shivpuriya of the IBM T.J. Watson Research Center posted 
> an email to the list with all his personal contact details on June 17th 
> 2007 and I accepted it, so it was distributed on June 19th.  Some time 
> later he has started asking me to remove this personal information because 
> a number of other sites are picking it up and republishing it.
>
> I attach a copy of the email I have just sent to him on the matter.  I 
> think it is self-explanatory and puts you in the picture.  I have made it 
> clear that we have nothing to do with the other lists he mentions, but it 
> will obviously be an ongoing problem if the information remains on the 
> gnuspeech mail archive as anyone can pick up the same information from the 
> archive.
>
> I would be most grateful if you could remove his personal details (address, 
> phone numbers & email address)  from the original posting to the gnuspeech 
> list (June 17 2007).
>
> Please let me know what can be/has been done.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> david
> --------
> David Hill, Prof. Emeritus,
> gnuspeech list administrator
> CS Dept, U. Calgary,
> Calgary, AB T2N 1N4 Canada
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> Dear Vikas,
>
> On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:50 AM, address@hidden wrote:
>> Hi David Hill,
>> Greetings.
>>
>> Can you please remove my contact details from the web posting at link
>> http://www.nabble.com/Hi-t3950183.html
>>
>> You have take similar action on my posting at the link
>> http://www.nabble.com/Removal-of-my-posting-openSubscriber-t4405870.html
>>
>> I do not want to share my professional or contact details on open forum at 
>> Nabble.com. Please do the needful as the earliest.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> -Vikas
>> ---------------------------------------------
>
> Earlier vikas wrote:
>
>> Remove personal confidential content from your website site - 
>> www.opensubscriber.com
>>      
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have some communication with gnuspeech that is displaying on 
>> www.opensubscriber.com
>>
>> http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/address@hidden/6963441.html
>>
>> This contains all my personal and business information that I do not wish 
>> to display on internet google search. You are displaying al the content 
>> that I wrote to gnuspeech, on your website without having consent of me or 
>> gnuspeech.
>>
>> I request you to remove this webpage from your site as it contains my 
>> personal information (name,address,phone nos) that I do not want to 
>> publish on your website.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> -Vikas
>>
>> Reply
>>              
>> Forward
>
>
> By posting to the gnuspeech site, as a non-member, you are asking for your 
> post to be accepted.  When the post is accepted, you normally become a 
> member and the email you sent is added to the list archives, and is 
> available to all those who visit them.  My role is only to make sure that 
> material sent by spammers, or other unsuitable emails sent by non-members 
> is kept off the list.
>
> You are asking me to remove the reposted details from both the 
> opensubscriber.com and nabble .com sites.
>
> I have *absolutely nothing* to do with the "nabble.com" site or the 
> "opensubscriber.com" site, nor are they (AFAIK) anything to do with gnu or 
> savannah.   I have done some Googling and found that the nabble.com site is 
> supposedly run by:
>
> Weizhen Lin
> PO Box 99800
> EmeryVille, CA
> 94662
> US
>
> Phone: +1 510 595 2002
> contact [at] myprivateregistration.com
>
> (URL for this information is: 
> http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main/nabble.com )
>
> The opensubscriber.com site is supposedly run by:
>
> Aaron Hughes
>
> Phone: +61 041 893 0431
> aaron [at] diezmil.com
>
> (URL for this information is: 
> http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main/opensubscriber.com )
>
> It is those companies that you will have to contact to have that listing of 
> your personal details removed from their sites.  As I say, I have nothing 
> to do with those sites, and cannot change or dictate what they have posted. 
>  I was unaware of either site until you brought them to my attention.  I 
> notice that nabble reproduces information from many gnu sites, but that is 
> only a small part of what they seem to do.  I have no idea why they would 
> do this.
>
> The gnuspeech list site to which you originally posted is a semi-public 
> site and it is not possible to stop other people from accessing the site, 
> collecting information on the site, and reposting it on their own sites.  
> Non-members accessing the gnuspeech site cannot see the senders' email 
> addresses, but they *can* see the content of messages.  You put your 
> personal detail in the message itself.  As I told the last time you 
> contacted me, once you have posted a message it has been put in the public 
> domain.  Your mistake was in posting all your personal information on a 
> site to which the public have access.  My only role with the gnuspeech site 
> is to reject non-legitimate postings (e.g. from spammers).  The gnu 
> savannah hackers run the site, not me.  I will bring your request to their 
> attention in the hope they can remove the personal information from your 
> original posting, something I can find no way to do.
>
> But there is always the problem that other sites may have collected your 
> information; and even with the opensubscriber.com and nabble.com sites, 
> there will be Google archives, no doubt.
>
> Good luck with your quest to remove your information from the nabble & 
> opensubscriber sites.
>
> All good wishes.
>
> david
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> David Hill
> address@hidden
> http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnuspeech
>