Re: [Savannah-help-public] Mis-posting to gnuspeech mail list

[Sylvain Beucler]

I removed the contact info.

What can I add? I could have better used my time :/

-- 
Sylvain

On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 09:24:21AM +0100, Sylvain Beucler wrote:
> I'll have a look.
> 
> -- 
> Sylvain
> 
> On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 09:33:15AM -0800, David Hill wrote:
> > Dear Savannah Hackers,
> >
> > There is an ongoing problem with one of our posters to the gnuspeech mail 
> > archive and I do not seem to have any means to resolve the problem.
> >
> > Basically, Vikas Shivpuriya of the IBM T.J. Watson Research Center posted 
> > an email to the list with all his personal contact details on June 17th 
> > 2007 and I accepted it, so it was distributed on June 19th.  Some time 
> > later he has started asking me to remove this personal information because 
> > a number of other sites are picking it up and republishing it.
> >
> > I attach a copy of the email I have just sent to him on the matter.  I 
> > think it is self-explanatory and puts you in the picture.  I have made it 
> > clear that we have nothing to do with the other lists he mentions, but it 
> > will obviously be an ongoing problem if the information remains on the 
> > gnuspeech mail archive as anyone can pick up the same information from the 
> > archive.
> >
> > I would be most grateful if you could remove his personal details (address, 
> > phone numbers & email address)  from the original posting to the gnuspeech 
> > list (June 17 2007).
> >
> > Please let me know what can be/has been done.
> >
> > Many thanks.
> >
> > david
> > --------
> > David Hill, Prof. Emeritus,
> > gnuspeech list administrator
> > CS Dept, U. Calgary,
> > Calgary, AB T2N 1N4 Canada
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> >
> > Dear Vikas,
> >
> > On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:50 AM, address@hidden wrote:
> >> Hi David Hill,
> >> Greetings.
> >>
> >> Can you please remove my contact details from the web posting at link
> >> http://www.nabble.com/Hi-t3950183.html
> >>
> >> You have take similar action on my posting at the link
> >> http://www.nabble.com/Removal-of-my-posting-openSubscriber-t4405870.html
> >>
> >> I do not want to share my professional or contact details on open forum at 
> >> Nabble.com. Please do the needful as the earliest.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> -Vikas
> >> ---------------------------------------------
> >
> > Earlier vikas wrote:
> >
> >> Remove personal confidential content from your website site - 
> >> www.opensubscriber.com
> >>    
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have some communication with gnuspeech that is displaying on 
> >> www.opensubscriber.com
> >>
> >> http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/address@hidden/6963441.html
> >>
> >> This contains all my personal and business information that I do not wish 
> >> to display on internet google search. You are displaying al the content 
> >> that I wrote to gnuspeech, on your website without having consent of me or 
> >> gnuspeech.
> >>
> >> I request you to remove this webpage from your site as it contains my 
> >> personal information (name,address,phone nos) that I do not want to 
> >> publish on your website.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> -Vikas
> >>
> >> Reply
> >>            
> >> Forward
> >
> >
> > By posting to the gnuspeech site, as a non-member, you are asking for your 
> > post to be accepted.  When the post is accepted, you normally become a 
> > member and the email you sent is added to the list archives, and is 
> > available to all those who visit them.  My role is only to make sure that 
> > material sent by spammers, or other unsuitable emails sent by non-members 
> > is kept off the list.
> >
> > You are asking me to remove the reposted details from both the 
> > opensubscriber.com and nabble .com sites.
> >
> > I have *absolutely nothing* to do with the "nabble.com" site or the 
> > "opensubscriber.com" site, nor are they (AFAIK) anything to do with gnu or 
> > savannah.   I have done some Googling and found that the nabble.com site is 
> > supposedly run by:
> >
> > Weizhen Lin
> > PO Box 99800
> > EmeryVille, CA
> > 94662
> > US
> >
> > Phone: +1 510 595 2002
> > contact [at] myprivateregistration.com
> >
> > (URL for this information is: 
> > http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main/nabble.com )
> >
> > The opensubscriber.com site is supposedly run by:
> >
> > Aaron Hughes
> >
> > Phone: +61 041 893 0431
> > aaron [at] diezmil.com
> >
> > (URL for this information is: 
> > http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main/opensubscriber.com )
> >
> > It is those companies that you will have to contact to have that listing of 
> > your personal details removed from their sites.  As I say, I have nothing 
> > to do with those sites, and cannot change or dictate what they have posted. 
> >  I was unaware of either site until you brought them to my attention.  I 
> > notice that nabble reproduces information from many gnu sites, but that is 
> > only a small part of what they seem to do.  I have no idea why they would 
> > do this.
> >
> > The gnuspeech list site to which you originally posted is a semi-public 
> > site and it is not possible to stop other people from accessing the site, 
> > collecting information on the site, and reposting it on their own sites.  
> > Non-members accessing the gnuspeech site cannot see the senders' email 
> > addresses, but they *can* see the content of messages.  You put your 
> > personal detail in the message itself.  As I told the last time you 
> > contacted me, once you have posted a message it has been put in the public 
> > domain.  Your mistake was in posting all your personal information on a 
> > site to which the public have access.  My only role with the gnuspeech site 
> > is to reject non-legitimate postings (e.g. from spammers).  The gnu 
> > savannah hackers run the site, not me.  I will bring your request to their 
> > attention in the hope they can remove the personal information from your 
> > original posting, something I can find no way to do.
> >
> > But there is always the problem that other sites may have collected your 
> > information; and even with the opensubscriber.com and nabble.com sites, 
> > there will be Google archives, no doubt.
> >
> > Good luck with your quest to remove your information from the nabble & 
> > opensubscriber sites.
> >
> > All good wishes.
> >
> > david
> > --------------
> > David Hill
> > address@hidden
> > http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnuspeech