RE: [Swarm-Support] IDEs - who is using what

[Christopher J. Mackie]

Critical mass is a beautiful thing. I'm using Eclipse primarily now,
because as more contributors pile on and support more compilers, I can
use it for more and more types of projects -- and the more intensively I
use it, the more productive I become. As much as I admire those who are
developing their own editors for Swarm or RePast, I have to wonder if
the effort wouldn't be better-invested in developing
Swarm/RePast-specific extensions for a consensus platform like Eclipse?
Of course, that begs the question, if you build it, in Eclipse or some
competitive IDE, would they come?

So, I would like to ask a compound variation on the original question: 

1. Do we think that the community could reach agreement on whether
anything would be gained on balance, for Swarm or any other ABM/IBM
framework, by encouraging greater standardization around a single IDE?
(note: 'encouraging', not 'requiring', and let's defer the question of
which IDE for a moment)

2. Would there be further net benefits from encouraging standardization
on an IDE across ABM/IBM frameworks and the ABM/IBM community more
generally? 

3. And if the answer to either of those questions is 'yes', would it
make more sense to standardize on a minimalist framework (e.g.,
something ABM-product-specific), on a heavyweight but modular framework
like Eclipse, or on something else (e.g., emacs, ...)?

I'm particularly curious to know what others see as the pros and cons of
any such standardization effort.

--Chris



-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden On
Behalf Of David Camacho Trujillo
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:47 PM
To: Swarm Support
Subject: [Swarm-Support] IDE-for objective -C

Hi every one.

When I started to work with Swarm e-macs was for me the only objective
-c IDE available, but I fund it not so friendly for beginners. Some time
ago I found jGrasp which I found is one of the very few IDE for
objective-c. 
It is very friendly, and I found it very good for newcomers.
(Therefore I change the title of this message, I hope it could be easy
for a newcomer to find this information. Should I put it on the wiki?)
It is relative very small program, but is has several fetures.
I recommend you to take a look on it:  www.jgrasp.org 

"GRASP is a lightweight development environment, created specifically to
provide automatic generation of software visualizations to improve the
comprehensibility of software. jGRASP is implemented in Java, and runs
on all platforms with a Java Virtual Machine (Java version 1.3 or
higher). jGRASP produces Control Structure Diagrams (CSDs) for Java, C,
C++, Objective-C, Ada, and VHDL; CPG diagrams for Java and Ada; UML
diagrams for Java; and has an integrated debugger and workbench for
Java."

Regards,
David




Mensaje citado por: Steve Railsback <address@hidden>:

> Recently my collaborators and I have been starting to mess around with

> integrated development environments, especially Eclipse for doing Java

> Swarm and Repast. Eclipse certainly seems to help new programmers get 
> started---after they figure out how to use Eclipse. There has been 
> some discussion of IDEs here in the past, but not a lot.
> 
> So now I am curious:
> 
> -- What IDEs are people using? What do you like vs. dislike about
them?
> 
> -- What is available for Objective-C Swarm? I understand there is a 
> Mac IDE for Obj-C?
> 
> Let us know about your experience, especially if you have something 
> that
> 
> works well...maybe we can add to the FAQ, etc.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Steve Railsback
> 
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