Re: RE: [Swarm-Support] IDEs - who is using what

[Venkatesh Mysore]

I am surprised nobody pointed this out: the next version of RePast is 
going to be integrated with Eclipse (see Agent 2005 conference 
proceedings). Their demo included how they have enhanced (not just 
exploited) Eclipse to create a better environment for programming. I am 
one of those Emacs guys contemplating a switch to Eclipse. I think the 
Swarm team should also explore this kind of integration.

regards,
Venkat

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher J. Mackie" <address@hidden>
Date: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:00 pm
Subject: RE: [Swarm-Support] IDEs - who is using what

> Critical mass is a beautiful thing. I'm using Eclipse primarily now,
> because as more contributors pile on and support more compilers, I can
> use it for more and more types of projects -- and the more 
> intensively I
> use it, the more productive I become. As much as I admire those 
> who are
> developing their own editors for Swarm or RePast, I have to wonder if
> the effort wouldn't be better-invested in developing
> Swarm/RePast-specific extensions for a consensus platform like 
> Eclipse?Of course, that begs the question, if you build it, in 
> Eclipse or some
> competitive IDE, would they come?
> 
> So, I would like to ask a compound variation on the original 
> question: 
> 
> 1. Do we think that the community could reach agreement on whether
> anything would be gained on balance, for Swarm or any other ABM/IBM
> framework, by encouraging greater standardization around a single IDE?
> (note: 'encouraging', not 'requiring', and let's defer the 
> question of
> which IDE for a moment)
> 
> 2. Would there be further net benefits from encouraging 
> standardizationon an IDE across ABM/IBM frameworks and the ABM/IBM 
> community more
> generally? 
> 
> 3. And if the answer to either of those questions is 'yes', would it
> make more sense to standardize on a minimalist framework (e.g.,
> something ABM-product-specific), on a heavyweight but modular 
> frameworklike Eclipse, or on something else (e.g., emacs, ...)?
> 
> I'm particularly curious to know what others see as the pros and 
> cons of
> any such standardization effort.
> 
> --Chris
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden On
> Behalf Of David Camacho Trujillo
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:47 PM
> To: Swarm Support
> Subject: [Swarm-Support] IDE-for objective -C
> 
> Hi every one.
> 
> When I started to work with Swarm e-macs was for me the only objective
> -c IDE available, but I fund it not so friendly for beginners. 
> Some time
> ago I found jGrasp which I found is one of the very few IDE for
> objective-c. 
> It is very friendly, and I found it very good for newcomers.
> (Therefore I change the title of this message, I hope it could be easy
> for a newcomer to find this information. Should I put it on the wiki?)
> It is relative very small program, but is has several fetures.
> I recommend you to take a look on it:  www.jgrasp.org 
> 
> "GRASP is a lightweight development environment, created 
> specifically to
> provide automatic generation of software visualizations to improve the
> comprehensibility of software. jGRASP is implemented in Java, and runs
> on all platforms with a Java Virtual Machine (Java version 1.3 or
> higher). jGRASP produces Control Structure Diagrams (CSDs) for 
> Java, C,
> C++, Objective-C, Ada, and VHDL; CPG diagrams for Java and Ada; UML
> diagrams for Java; and has an integrated debugger and workbench for
> Java."
> 
> Regards,
> David
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mensaje citado por: Steve Railsback <address@hidden>:
> 
> > Recently my collaborators and I have been starting to mess 
> around with
> 
> > integrated development environments, especially Eclipse for 
> doing Java
> 
> > Swarm and Repast. Eclipse certainly seems to help new 
> programmers get 
> > started---after they figure out how to use Eclipse. There has 
> been 
> > some discussion of IDEs here in the past, but not a lot.
> > 
> > So now I am curious:
> > 
> > -- What IDEs are people using? What do you like vs. dislike about
> them?
> > 
> > -- What is available for Objective-C Swarm? I understand there 
> is a 
> > Mac IDE for Obj-C?
> > 
> > Let us know about your experience, especially if you have 
> something 
> > that
> > 
> > works well...maybe we can add to the FAQ, etc.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Steve Railsback
> > 
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> 
> 
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