RE: Hurd web (other things to do 2)

[Jim Franklin]

)Ognyan's paper on microkernels will have to be handled similar to Neal's
FAQ2 with the copyright reflecting Ognyan's GNU FDL as opposed to the FSF
copyright.

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From: address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden Behalf Of
Jim Franklin
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 1:16 AM
To: Jeff Bailey
Cc: address@hidden; Philip Charles; Ognyan Kulev; Ian Duggan; Attila
Nagy
Subject: RE: Hurd web (other things to do)


)need to hook Neal's FAQ (which he now considers stable) into the
boilerplate. I was thinking of calling it FAQ2 as opposed to our other FAQ.
He has given his permission to use it. We must change the copyright info at
the bottom of the boilerplate to reflect HIS copyright information and not
the FSF copyright info.
)We need updated versions of the reference manual (maybe this should be
hooked into the script for updating the hurd source weekly?) and original
FAQ hooked into the boilerplate. I think Ognyan was considering doing this.
)hook Marcus'translator doc, Thomas' paper on OSes, and etc into the
boilerplate.
)change Phil's CD doc to reflect the CD image now at gnu web site.
)create a page on Phil minimal floppy set for installing the hurd.

-----Original Message-----
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Jim Franklin
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:26 AM
To: Jeff Bailey
Cc: Attila Nagy; Ian Duggan; Ognyan Kulev; Philip Charles;
address@hidden
Subject: RE: Hurd web


more general philosopy rules for the web page builders:
)we are not here to move the debian hurd port project. WE ARE HERE TO
ATTRACT NEW HURD HACKERS! Keep the reference to debian to the one on the
homepage and to the ports page. They have their own web pages to attract new
porters. If you want to tout the debian port you should be writing the
debian web pages.
)get folks to use address@hidden as the primary mailing list for
discussion on hacking on the hurd. Let folks know it is a help each other
mailing list and discussion there should be limited to hacking on the hurd
source code.

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden Behalf Of
Jim Franklin
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:07 AM
To: Jeff Bailey
Cc: address@hidden; Philip Charles; Ognyan Kulev; Ian Duggan; Attila
Nagy
Subject: RE: Hurd web


Jeff,
Nice to hear from you. I've been working at the job 7 days a week since mid
May. This is pretty close to what I projected to you at the beginning of
April so I'm not really surprised it happened. Today and tomorrow I have
pretty much free, and on Monday it's back to 7 days a week for probably
another month. Oh the joys of being a start-up engineer.
I'll bring you up to speed. I've got the cover page redone. Also the more
about hurd general info page. An old copy (the left column is changed some
and probably will continue to change till the end of the project as sections
are added and deleted) and can be viewed at:

http://members-http-1.rwc1.sfba.home.net/cykick/software/hurd/

I've given the copyright rights to 'the hurd development and information
links' doc to the FSF and have renamed it 'The GNU Hurd WWW Sitemap'.
Richard Stallman should be sending me the finalized documentation within a
week or so. Work on the development section has been put on the side since I
decided it will be a spin off and expansion of part of the 'The GNU Hurd WWW
Sitemap'. I have just about completed reviewing the hurd archives and should
start the final rewriting of the 'Sitemap' this evening.
If you could handle the ports page that would be great! Once again it will
be a hook into other web sites except for Zeno's l4 port page which will be
hosed at hurd.gnu.org . the reason for using hooks into other web pages
rather than hosting them at gnu.org is in the cover page listed above. Ian
is working with paulv (chief GNU webmaster) to hook the source code for the
hurd and GNUMach into the web site using lxr and to be updated weekly by
script. Ognyan's paper will be the section 'About Microkernels'. I will be
using Phil's section from the debian web pages which he wrote and hook it
into the boilerplate for the CDs and minimal floppies section. The minimal
floppies section may still have to be written. There is probably more but
not off the top of my head.

The general philosophy I have been using when building these pages.

)We are trying to attract new developers to learn to hack on the hurd code.
THIS IS THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THIS WEB SITE.
)Do not if at all possible refer to Linux! We are not here to compare OS
strategies. Any reference to linux is a negative connotation on the hurd.
Trust me on this one. As far as we are concerned linux is old tech and not
worth getting in a pissing match over ;)
)we are attracting probably young developers (early twenties?) who are
probably trying to make a name for themselves hacking kernel so keep the
language modern. Also the folks who have been trying to contribute to the
linux kernel and have been aced out by the 'good old boy' system in place
for the linux kernel. (I got this info from some old archived hurd
messages).

I'll think of more to pass on later this afternoon.

Thx
Jim Franklin

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Bailey [mailto:address@hidden
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 7:08 PM
To: address@hidden
Subject: Hurd web


Jim,

Tommorow is my last day at work, and I have about 4 weeks of hanging
out at home before I move.  Mostly, I'm hoping to work on our current
glibc problems, but I would like to also do more on the web pages.  I
don't even have current notes for where it's hosted, etc.

Tks,
Jeff Bailey


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