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Re: Question regarding org-capture-bookmark and org-bookmark-names-plist


From: Tim Wichmann
Subject: Re: Question regarding org-capture-bookmark and org-bookmark-names-plist
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2024 21:58:45 +0100
User-agent: mu4e 1.10.0; emacs 29.1

Dear Ihor,

Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:
>> My question: Is this the intended way to suppress bookmark creation?
>
> I think so.

Great!

> We first introduced `org-capture-bookmark' and only then added
> `org-bookmark-names-plist'. Maybe we should obsolete
> `org-capture-bookmark' to avoid confusion.

Thanks for the clarification.  Obsoleting `org-capture-bookmark' sounds
good, as the variable does not add new functionality which can not be
achieved with `org-bookmark-names-plist' already.

>> ...(Note, moreover, that currently
>> the :last-capture-marker bookmark is created even in case
>> `org-capture-bookmark' is set to nil, see `org-refile'.)
>
> May you elaborate? Are you sure that it is still the case on the latest main?

I double checked in newest version of defun `org-refile' in main branch:
The bookmark for :last-capture-marker is set independently of the value
of `org-capture-bookmark'.  The corresponding code looks like this:

---[snip: org-refile.el, line 608 ff.]---
                 (when (bound-and-true-p org-capture-is-refiling)
                   (let ((bookmark-name (plist-get org-bookmark-names-plist
                                                   :last-capture-marker)))
                     (when bookmark-name
                       (condition-case err
                           (bookmark-set bookmark-name)
---[end snip]---

I would have expected that this bookmark is not set in case
`org-capture-bookmark' is set to nil, something like this:

---[snip]---
                 (when (bound-and-true-p org-capture-is-refiling)
                   (when org-capture-bookmark
                     (let ((bookmark-name (plist-get org-bookmark-names-plist
                       [...]                                                    
 
---[end snip]---

But, when obsoleting `org-capture-bookmark', this problem is solved
anyhow: Bookmark creation can be fully controlled using the plist
variable (and only there).

So, I vote for obsoleting `org-capture-bookmark'.

Thanks again for your help!


Best regards,
  Tim.



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