Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO

[Jean Louis]

Ha ha ha, that is right and funny.

There is not alternative to freedom, and freedom is not alternative to
jail (proprietary software).

Maybe the difference is that fsf.org is not a Free System
Distribution, and Stallman.org is also not a Free System
Distribution. It is now for webmasters to correct it. Free software is
not alternative to proprietary. It is not logical.

btw:

I don't agree with Gnash at all, as it is simply allowing non-free
software to run on free player, according to my understanding. I am
not using it and will never do. I have my own view point on free
software, and Gnash is for me software that directs users to use
non-free software. So it is not for me.

Jean Louis

On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 01:34:43AM +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:
> > In regards to your website, now the website is promoting both Puri.sm
> > and PureOS. And on many pages, you have "alternatives" to proprietary
> > software, references to FLOSS and FOSS, and others.
> 
> [Just a curious passer-by here.]
> 
> Sorry, what’s wrong with having a page listed free / libre replacements for 
> nonfree programs?  If you are referring  to the list of confusing words on 
> gnu.org [0], the item about ‘alternatives’ seems to address itself to 
> describing free software *in general* as an alternative to propritary, is not 
> it?
> 
> [0] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Alternative
> 
> At any rate, it’s not hard to find specific ‘alternatives’ to specific 
> nonfree software on FSF’s website:
> 
> “We also promote the use of the new "video tag" standard as an alternative to 
> Adobe Flash for embedding audio and video in webpages.”
> — https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/
> 
> “Most of it is delivered with Flash, whicha is proprietary, nonstandard 
> software. Free software alternatives like GNU Gnash are available, but the 
> user experience isn't always as seamless as it ought to be.”
> — https://www.fsf.org/news/supporting-webm
> 
> “iPhone is not the only option. There are better alternatives on the horizon 
> that respect your freedom, don't spy on you, play free media formats, and let 
> you use free software”
> — https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/5-reasons-to-avoid-iphone-3g
> 
> “So, what's the alternative? One real alternative that exists today is 
> Savannah.”
> — https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/savannah
> 
> And on RMS’s personal website also:
> 
> “What to use instead [of Skype]? The most obvious alternative is a 
> long-distance phone card. They are quite cheap nowadays, and they work with 
> any phone. There are also free programs you can use, such as Ekiga, Mumble, 
> Jitsi and more.”
> — https://stallman.org/skype.html
> 
> > They have good intentions, but never realized
> > that open source is about using the software with sources readable,
> > regardless if sources are free of not. You see Debian GNU/Linux is
> > FLOSS oriented. They offer "open source" on non-free servers, so one
> > can see the sources, but does not get all the freedom.
> 
> Actually, Debian’s ‘non-free’ repository section contains all sorts
> of nonfree software that is not prohibited to distribute, not only
> that with sources available.