Re: UTP Revisited: scoping the project

[Larry McVoy]

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 09:33:02AM -0400, Larry Kollar wrote:
> 
> Marc Chantreux <eiro@phear.org> wrote:
> > 
> > hello,
> > 
> >> -  Update Chapter 3 to cover Vim (including gvim)
> > 
> > please don't!
> > 
> > what's nice about reading UTP is to discover the elegance and simplicity
> > of it all ???
> > 
> > i'm a vibrant fan of vim but i have to admit that even to me, vim don't
> > belong to this world of simplicity at all! plus:
> > 
> > * both vim and neovim have vibrant ecosystems to promote their usages
> > * there are so many ways to vim it
> > 
> > ??? the way i'll update it would be to
> > 
> > * mention vim at the top of the chapter and explain we need an extra
> >  book (eventualy just make a giant list of all the things you can
> >  read about from :help).
> > * improve the chapter to take advantage of modern implementations of
> >  vi in modern unix.
> 
> Your last point was exactly where I was going with this. Having your editor
> (gvim in this case) in one window, and your shell in another, makes life so
> much easier, for example. Cherry-pick one or two things like that, then
> point out that we???re only scratching the surface of what modern versions
> can do. Point them to vim.org for more info. 

The one thing I'd support adding for vim is :split as that is a pretty
big improvement over traditional vi.