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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Android without Google (Nikos Roussos)
2. Re: Android without Google (cryptie@nym.hush.com)
3. Google Docs without ODF support?
( Micha? 'rysiek' =?utf-8?q?_Wo=C5=BAniak?=)
4. Re: Android without Google (Robert Martinez)
5. Re: Android without Google (Ziv Leyes)
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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:01:00 +0300
From: Nikos Roussos <comzeradd@fsfe.org>
To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Android without Google
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On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 12:48 +0200, Alexey Eromenko wrote:
> 1. I have heard about 3rd party Android markets, but never used them.
> This needs some research.
There are several markets other than Google Play that provide
proprietary apps in case you need them.
I wouldn't call them 3rd party because they are as official to Android
Open Source Project as Google Play is.
> 2. Ask vendors, and Open Source projects to provide APK directly,
> bypassing Google Play. I'm sure FireFox are willing to do that.
Besides installing Firefox through F-Droid, Mozilla is providing a
direct download apk link for Aurora
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/mobile/aurora/
> Effectively, for best experience having a Google Play device is a
> MUST. (esp if you are not Richard Stallman, and are using some
> proprietary software...)
I haven't installed Google Play to my phone (or any other Google app)
and I can't say I miss much.
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Nikos Roussos
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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 13:03:39 +0200
From: cryptie@nym.hush.com
To: "Nikos Roussos" <comzeradd@fsfe.org>,
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Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Android without Google
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I have a cyanogenmod phone without google for 6 months :
I use F-droid as a market.
The main advantage is that you can add other repository.
Thus I have the classical F-droid one plus the guardianproject one
but you may add others one.
For my "evryday wihout google" life I use :
*K-9 mail (+APG) for my mails
(Apache2) *Gibberbot for XMPP conversation (it deals OTR and can even
be used in google talks ) (Apache2) *Firefox as webbrowser
(MPL2) *duckduck go apps as
search engine (Apache2) *The Diaspora
webclient
(GPLv3) *Jamendo to listen music
(Apache2) *KeePassDroid to manage my password
(GPLv2) *Offline Calendar as a calendar without synchro (he is
efficient but ugly :/) (MIT) *OsmAnd as maps and GPS
stuff (GPLv3) *Yaaic as an irc Client
(GPLv3+)
I don't have problems when browsing except on youtube.... :P
Hope this may have help you.
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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:09:54 +0200
From: " Micha? 'rysiek' =?utf-8?q?_Wo=C5=BAniak?=" <rysiek@fwioo.pl>
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Subject: [libreplanet-discuss] Google Docs without ODF support?
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Hello all,
Just a heads-up - there are first signs that Google is killing
OpenDocument Format support in Google Docs:
http://www.muktware.com/4529/why-google-killing-open-document-formats
"Google Docs/Drive doesn't offer preview of ODF files; it doesn't open
ODF files. You will have to first convert it to the Google Docs
format. Google Docs also doesn't offer the export in all ODF formats.
What Works With Google Services?
Only Microsoft's controversial OOXML formats."
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Pozdrawiam
Micha? "rysiek" Wo?niak
Fundacja Wolnego i Otwartego Oprogramowania
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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 13:11:06 +0200
From: Robert Martinez <mail@mray.de>
To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Android without Google
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On 09/10/12 13:00, Alexey Eromenko wrote:
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> Keeping the device Google-free probably means going 100% open source.
> Convincing OSS community to support APK directly should be doable.
>
imho supporting f-droid is most important.
it's a true alternative to google play - visiting webpages and searching
for download links is so 2000 ;)
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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:44:31 +0200
From: Ziv Leyes <zivley@gmail.com>
To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Android without Google
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Allow me to chime in, but it's a bit ridiculous to state you want "Android
without Google" as I believe Android IS Google itself.
If you're so anti google, why buy an android tablet anyway? Buy something
else or use the hardware to install other free OS
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On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Alexey Eromenko <al4321@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1. I have heard about 3rd party Android markets, but never used them.
> This needs some research.
> 2. Ask vendors, and Open Source projects to provide APK directly,
> bypassing Google Play. I'm sure FireFox are willing to do that.
>
> Effectively, for best experience having a Google Play device is a
> MUST. (esp if you are not Richard Stallman, and are using some
> proprietary software...)
>
> --
> -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov"
>
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