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Re: Ubuntu and Debian packages / 2013-07-07


From: David Chisnall
Subject: Re: Ubuntu and Debian packages / 2013-07-07
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:16:55 +0100

Yes, this is why I am making clang 3.3, libobjc2, and libdispatch hard 
dependencies for the updated GNUstep ports on FreeBSD.  The aim is to provide a 
first class development environment for Objective-C.  

David

On 9 Jul 2013, at 05:56, "Lundberg, Johannes" <johannes@brilliantservice.co.jp> 
wrote:

> If it is possible I think we should try to support Obj-C 2 features as well, 
> especially ARC.
> 
> Many new developers especially from the last couple years most likely have 
> never written retain or release. Having to all of a sudden start doing manual 
> memory management might be too big an obstacle.
> 
> It should be as easy as possible to start using GNUstep when coming from a 
> modern iOS or Mac OS X development environment if we're to recruit new 
> developers curious about Obj-C on other platforms.
> 
> 
> 
> Johannes Lundberg
> BRILLIANTSERVICE CO., LTD.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:53 PM, David Chisnall <David.Chisnall@cl.cam.ac.uk> 
> wrote:
> On 8 Jul 2013, at 14:44, Philippe Roussel <p.o.roussel@free.fr> wrote:
> 
> > I'd like to provide packages based on libobjc2 and clang but I'm not
> > sure how. clang is a fast moving target and I would probably need to
> > package its latest version to offer all functionalities. When I have
> > some time...
> 
> The libobjc2 has CPack support, so it can build debian packages out of the 
> box, just with 'make package'.  If you want to customise the packages then 
> there are some CPack options you can set.
> 
> Clang has a release every six months, which isn't much of a moving target.  
> There is already a package for the most recent release:
> 
> http://packages.debian.org/sid/clang-3.3
> 
> Although for some bizarre reason it has a hard dependency on the GCC libobjc, 
> which makes no sense at all.
> 
> > Off topic : clang is probably a great compiler, offering vastly superior
> > functionalities that everyone should use in their projects unless they
> > want to be publicly mocked and all that, but gnustep still supports
> > gcc AFAIK
> 
> We attempt to support gcc, but in some cases that means things will build but 
> you'll get reduced functionality.
> 
> David
> 
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