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Re: Ubuntu and Debian packages / 2013-07-07


From: Lundberg, Johannes
Subject: Re: Ubuntu and Debian packages / 2013-07-07
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 18:04:05 +0900

That's great David! Are these ports available now?

Johannes Lundberg
BRILLIANTSERVICE CO., LTD.


On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 5:16 PM, David Chisnall <theraven@sucs.org> wrote:
Yes, this is why I am making clang 3.3, libobjc2, and libdispatch hard dependencies for the updated GNUstep ports on FreeBSD.  The aim is to provide a first class development environment for Objective-C.

David

On 9 Jul 2013, at 05:56, "Lundberg, Johannes" <johannes@brilliantservice.co.jp> wrote:

> If it is possible I think we should try to support Obj-C 2 features as well, especially ARC.
>
> Many new developers especially from the last couple years most likely have never written retain or release. Having to all of a sudden start doing manual memory management might be too big an obstacle.
>
> It should be as easy as possible to start using GNUstep when coming from a modern iOS or Mac OS X development environment if we're to recruit new developers curious about Obj-C on other platforms.
>
>
>
> Johannes Lundberg
> BRILLIANTSERVICE CO., LTD.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:53 PM, David Chisnall <David.Chisnall@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> On 8 Jul 2013, at 14:44, Philippe Roussel <p.o.roussel@free.fr> wrote:
>
> > I'd like to provide packages based on libobjc2 and clang but I'm not
> > sure how. clang is a fast moving target and I would probably need to
> > package its latest version to offer all functionalities. When I have
> > some time...
>
> The libobjc2 has CPack support, so it can build debian packages out of the box, just with 'make package'.  If you want to customise the packages then there are some CPack options you can set.
>
> Clang has a release every six months, which isn't much of a moving target.  There is already a package for the most recent release:
>
> http://packages.debian.org/sid/clang-3.3
>
> Although for some bizarre reason it has a hard dependency on the GCC libobjc, which makes no sense at all.
>
> > Off topic : clang is probably a great compiler, offering vastly superior
> > functionalities that everyone should use in their projects unless they
> > want to be publicly mocked and all that, but gnustep still supports
> > gcc AFAIK
>
> We attempt to support gcc, but in some cases that means things will build but you'll get reduced functionality.
>
> David
>
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