Re: Kickstarter was not successful... but it did help things...

[Riccardo Mottola]

Hi,

On 09/12/13 11:17, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Let me play the advocatus diaboli for one part,
Me placet.
> But is there a fundamental difference of finding missing APIs to WebKit from 
> contributing missing things to SimpleWebKit?
> I think, it is basically the same task: testing, coding, submitting patches, 
> thinking about architecture etc.
It also shows the difference in using a check on the API (SWK plays 
decently well!) and the content :)
Let's call SWK Small WebKit :)

The advantage of having a better SWK is big:
1) it is an alternative, much easier to get
2) it remains useful also in the future, for embedded platforms, embedde 
viewers, documentation usage... who knows what else
3) it would allow PORTING of certain tools without major tricks at minor 
loss of funtionality (think of the guy where who wanted to port an app 
and just needs WebKit to display some documentation)
> So from the fact that nobody did port WebKit in 5 years and there isn't much 
> contribution to SimpleWebKit, I conclude that we do not want to have any WebKit 
> compatible framework within GNUstep... Or we want to have it but don't want to 
> collaborate on it.
>
> BTW: the same holds for CoreData - 80-90% complete code is there for years but 
> has not been advanced.
We have a couple of recurring topics since the past years where we throw 
frustration (in no particular order: Themes, WebKit/BRowser, Office 
Suite, Windows, CoreData/CoreBase.....) where all the evil is but if 
somebody starts to work on it, he gets extremely little support.

Nikolaus, perhaps it could be doable to make a specific SWK kickstarter? 
Being able to display a set of pages (thus not "all standard X"). I'd 
say for example a wiki page and a certain set of features for a certain 
amount of money? Would you be able to estimate it? All this then using 
10.6 APIs If GNUstep lacks them (e.g. table), well they should come 
later. What do you think of this?

Riccardo