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RE: [DMCA-Activists] Ballmer: DRM is the Future


From: angry troll [OT]
Subject: RE: [DMCA-Activists] Ballmer: DRM is the Future
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 04:05:04 +0100

Jesus Christ ive been on this list for a while now
And these guys are really pissing me off
Why don’t they shut the fuck up 
Do they ever think there are people who aint from new york?
hehe

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-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of iriXx
Sent: 09 May 2003 19:41
To: A discussion list for digital freedom activists.
Subject: Re: [DMCA-Activists] Ballmer: DRM is the Future

oh get a life

Ruben I Safir wrote:
> NYLXS Annoucement from the Poitical Sub-committee and NY Fair Use:
> 
> The NYLXS Board has elected to change the name of New Yorkers for Fair
> Use to the New York Association of Copyright Stateholders. The decision
> to make this change, effect May 2nd is being done for the following
> resons.
> 
> First, NYLXS has not been able to come to an agreeable negotiated
> solution with either Jay Sulzberger or Brett Wynkoop on the matter of
> their violation of either the NY Fair Use trademark and other trademarks
> involving NY Fair Use. Nor is NYLXS able to come to a conclussion with
> the parties on the abuse of our copyright of the materials affiliated
> with NY Fair Use which we have inherited.
> 
> Secondly, the members of NY Fair Use Inc, which was founded in in
> Febrary of 2003 and which has had their first meetings this last month,
> have done extreme damage to the efforts of NY Fair Use to educate the
> public on issues in a constructive way. As such, they've done
> irreputable damage to the NY Fair Use trademark.
> 
> In order to minimize further errossion of the efforts of NYLXS and NY
> Fair Use, we've decided to rename the organization NY Fair Use, the
> original NY Fair use organization as founded by Ruben Safir as early as
> 1999, in order to clarify more specifically it's mission and its goals,
> and to seperate us from the inefficient tactics and mistakes being made
> by Jay Sulzberger and Brett Wynkoop.
> 
> This announcement is in no way a repudiation of any rights and
> trademarks that NYLXS legally pocesses to the terms NY Fair Use, DRM is
> Theft - We are the stateholders, or any of the copyrights that NYLXS
> rightfully pocess in regards to NY Fair Use. NYLXS is still going to
> enforce its rights under the law to the origianl trademarks and
> copyrights.
> 
> NYLXS would further like to be clear that the behavior of Mr Wynkoop and
> Mr Sulzberger have been deplorable in this matter from the start. While
> NYLXS has made several bonofide and reasonable attempts to amiciably
> settle this dispute, the Members of NY Fair Use have abused our members
> repeatedly in person, on the phone, on the mailing list and at our
> meetings. The behavior of both Mr Wynkoop and Mr Sulzberger has been to
> respond to arbitration on these issues by avoiding such requests and
> substituting proposes for fair arbitration with blanket threats of
> secret information which would 'Blow NYLXS UP', and invitation for us to
> come to their meeting to be abused by them verbally without any fair
> artitration by an outside authoirty. This has been repeately rejected,
> especially in light of the 100's of hours that members have had to
> already endure going over all the excuses and accusations which they've
> launched at both NY Fair Use, NYLXS and their founder, Ruben Safir.
> 
> In addition, NYLXS would like to formaly state that while we often
> disagree with how to allocate resources and tactics in this matter, it
> is unified in its support of Ruben Safir and his claims. We stand behind
> this having given a fair hearing to Mr Sulzberger and Mr Wynkoop, and in
> reviewing the facts of the case through interviews of NY Fair Use
> members, and through an extenssive review of the written records and
> archives of the organization which was done in Febrary of 2003. The
> reports of our investgation, and the original agreements we attempted to
> use in settling with NY Fair Use, Inc (ie Jay Sulzberger and Brett
> Wynkoop), can be made available to anyone who asks, as well as their
> responses.
> 
> Over the next month, the NY Fair Use website, fairuse.nylxs.com, will be
> slowly reworked to reflect these changes. For an unspecific time period,
> NYACSH will be refered to at NYACSH, formly the original NY Fair Use and
> such other titles.
> 
> Lastly, NYLXS wished to express that it recents claims by the NY Fair
> Use, Inc organization that NYLXS in any way ever worked with or
> co-operated with that NY Fair Use, Inc or any other organization lead by
> Mr Wynkoop or Mr Sulzberger is false. All efforts in education and
> representation of the the Government took place with the Original NY
> Fair Use as founded and headed by Ruben Safir. All claims by NY Fair
> Use, Inc of our cooperation with them at any time is a misuse of our
> name and prestige for the glamour of those undeserving of our
> endorsement. We view it as morally equivilent to rape.
> 
> 
> Ruben Safir Secretary of NYLXS Chairman of the New York Association of
> Copyright Stakeholders and sub-committee of NYLXS, Inc Founder of NY
> Fair Use, and NYLXS
> 
> 
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