Re: [DotGNU]MacOS package

[Oscar Papel]

> Oscar Papel wrote:
> |
> | Darwinports is the farthest thing from the Mac way of doing things, at
> | least from a software distribution stage.
> | The Original Poster just wants an official link and a binary build so
> | that he can point his users at if and when installation is needed.
> | This is so that there are no license violations.  Specifically, the
> | clause about source code availability.
> | Since it is a shared component, it doesn't make sense to build your own.
> | There should be a standard build installed into a standard location
> | (and /opt/local is NOT a standard Mac directory). The typical Mac user
> | doesn't want to have to use Darwinports, XCode/gcc, or even a Terminal
> | window in order to do an install.
> |
>
> well, the dmgs i have made, doesnt require darwinport or a terminal to
> install, so...
>
> I make the dmgs out of the goodness of my heart, because i dont do build
> of anything, i make darwinports - so, its just a binary of the work i
> have dont with darwinports.

I never said there was anything wrong with your dmg's, only that the 
official link for the Mac release pointed to a darwinports port.  That port 
does require darwinports to be installed as well as XCode/gcc and a terminal 
window of some kind in order to get a build.  This is not part of a standard 
Mac User's system.

Also, before we continue, I think that darwinports is a great initiative for 
developers and do-it-yourselfers.  Many people have done great work in 
bringing packages to the Mac platform that would otherwise be unavailable.  
Unfortunately, this is not geared for the traditional Mac user.  I don't 
think this is an invalid criticism.  Since it is called "Darwin" ports and 
not "Panther" ports I guess you could argue that it doesn't have to.

> i had intensions about updating the binaries to the new version of
> 0.6.10 - i will not do so, and i have removed the dmgs at my opendarwin 
> page.

I do not speak for the dotGNU community.  I speak only for myself.  It would 
be a shame if you stopped contributing to dotDNU based on my personal 
position.

> happy hacking, the goals you have are not the same as mine - so, i wish you 
> the best.

Our goals don't really differ in significant ways.  I have no problem with 
your dmg's only where they install to.  Other than a different build prefix 
I don't see where we disagree.  This type of problem can be addressed with a 
few symlinks created in a post-install.

Since this is a community of developers, we need to find ways of bridging 
our differences.  What is good for the Mac platform is generally good for 
the OpenDarwin platform and vice versa.

If you would like to discuss this further off-list, you can e-mail me 
directly.

Regardless, I wish you the best of luck.

Oscar.