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Re: Mode_switch in Emacs
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Juri Linkov |
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Re: Mode_switch in Emacs |
Date: |
Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:43:14 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
>> I see no reason to activate both XIM russian layout and LEIM russian
>> input method in Emacs.
>
> I hope we indeed all agree on this one ;-)
>
> Tho now that you mention it, I'm wondering: how do people deal with the
> situation where their keyboard is cyrillic and they want to use one of
> Emacs's input methods (which are all based on latin chars)?
All Cyrillic keyboards have Latin chars too, i.e. each of the most
physical keys has two labels: one for a Latin character, and one
for a Cyrillic character. So after switching XIM to a Latin layout
(not necessarily English, any Latin-based language layout will work)
it is possible to use Emacs's input methods on Cyrillic keyboards.
>> Somewhere С-ц may be preferable to C-w, but at least in Emacs I think
>> interpreting С-ц as C-w is more natural. However, this is still not
>> very useful in Emacs because it will enable only key sequences with
>> control/meta modifiers, but not with raw letters. I.e. what good is
>> to process С-ц as C-w, if `C-x b' will produce useless `C-x и'?
>
> That's a very good point indeed. It basically means we should
> postpone the decision whether to translate b into и to much later.
This would be nice. Ideally, all keys should be translated except
self-inserting keys. I.e. this translation should be opposite to
LEIM input methods: LEIM input methods translate self-inserting
ASCII characters to the target language, but with an active non-Latin
XIM layout, Emacs should translate non-ASCII components of non-self-inserting
key combinations to their ASCII equivalents.
> Now how does all the above look in the case of XIM input methods that map
> multi-key sequences to chars (typically for asian scripts)?
I guess this may not work with other XIM input methods. So instead of
blindly converting non-ASCII characters to ASCII for all XIM input methods,
perhaps Emacs should use a new variable with "non-ASCII to ASCII" mappings.
--
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, (continued)
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Stefan Monnier, 2005/11/26
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Paul Pogonyshev, 2005/11/26
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Stefan Monnier, 2005/11/27
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Paul Pogonyshev, 2005/11/27
- Mode_switch in Emacs (was: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed), Stefan Monnier, 2005/11/27
- Re: Mode_switch in Emacs (was: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed), Juri Linkov, 2005/11/28
- Re: Mode_switch in Emacs, Stefan Monnier, 2005/11/28
- Re: Mode_switch in Emacs, Juri Linkov, 2005/11/28
- Re: Mode_switch in Emacs, Stefan Monnier, 2005/11/29
- Re: Mode_switch in Emacs, Paul Pogonyshev, 2005/11/29
- Re: Mode_switch in Emacs,
Juri Linkov <=
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Juri Linkov, 2005/11/28
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Juri Linkov, 2005/11/28
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Richard M. Stallman, 2005/11/25
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- thoughts on interaction of key bindings and input methods (was Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed), Paul Pogonyshev, 2005/11/26
- Re: thoughts on interaction of key bindings and input methods (was Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed), Ben Wing, 2005/11/26
- Re: thoughts on interaction of key bindings and input methods (was Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed), Tomas Zerolo, 2005/11/27
- Re: thoughts on interaction of key bindings and input methods (was Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed ), Paul Pogonyshev, 2005/11/27
- Re: thoughts on interaction of key bindings and input methods (was Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed), Ben Wing, 2005/11/28
- Re: thoughts on interaction of key bindings and input methods (was Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed), Paul Pogonyshev, 2005/11/28
- Re: thoughts on interaction of key bindings and input methods (was Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed), Aidan Kehoe, 2005/11/27