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Re: smtp crap
From: |
Stefan Monnier |
Subject: |
Re: smtp crap |
Date: |
Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:38:00 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) |
>> > Why does emacs _keep_ asking me if I want to "Set up Emacs
>> > for sending SMTP mail"?! I kept answer "n" to this question
>> I can't reproduce this. The first time I answer "n", it customizes
>> send-mail-function and saves that variable to the init file. This
>> should prevent the question from recurring. Could you try to
>> figure out what's causing that to fail?
> Even if it works flawlessly, this "feature" should _not_ be the default.
As long as we don't have a better solution, yes it should be
the default. And for Emacs-24 we won't have a better solution so it
will be the default.
mailclient-send-it is not a satisfactory solution, it's a workaround.
> In particular, it is ridiculous that a user trying to send a simple bug report
> with `emacs -Q' has to run through the extra hurdle of this inane, possibly
> confusing, and error-prone dialog ("yes"; edit the `From' line; "n"). I
> cannot
> believe this silliness has gone on this long already.
Editing the From is indeed a bug that we have to fix before
the release. Maybe you could submit a patch for it?
> Nowadays especially, users already have email configured on whatever devices
> they use.
Yes, e.g. configured on Emacs.
> Why are we going backward, not forward? Why is it suddenly important for
> every
> user to be interrogated (even once!) about configuring email for Emacs? (How
> did we get by all these years without this annoyance?)
We got by all these years because both SMTP and /usr/sbin/sendmail
actually used to work or fail reliably. Nowadays byzantine errors are
the rule for them so we need user input to figure out what to do.
Stefan
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