Re: Kickstarter for Emacs

[Tassilo Horn]

Tom <address@hidden> writes:

>> Not sure how well that works right now, but that might be a rather
>> cheap option to catch up on Java support in Emacs.  The downside of
>> this approach is of course that you still need Eclipse...
>
> Yes, this is also an option which needs much less time to effort to
> implement, though I think people were much less likely to fund such a
> solution if they would still need to use Eclipse.

Not sure.  Just having Eclipse installed doesn't bother me too much.
Having it running and consuming memory/CPU doesn't bother me, too.  What
really bothers me is that even when using Eclipse with its Emacs
keybinding scheme enabled, it's still hard to use.  I want my kill-ring,
I want keyboard macros, I want my isearch, etc...

> So this implementation would be more like a best effort, "working on
> it in my free time" version than full time, crowdfunded version.

Sure, but even with full-time initial development and crowdfunding, I
think you underestimate the effort needed for catching up on Eclipse's
Java support.  According to the statistics at Ohloh

  https://www.ohloh.net/p/eclipse-jdt

the Eclipse Java Development Tools are about 2 million LOC, estimated
effort ~600 person-years, estimated costs ~33 million USD, ~30 active
committers, and ~90 committers in total.  Ok, you shouldn't take those
numbers to seriously, but well, it's much anyway.

Bye,
Tassilo