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Re: Bidirectional text and URLs


From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: Bidirectional text and URLs
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 17:36:17 +0200

> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <address@hidden>
> Cc: address@hidden,
>     address@hidden
> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:42:18 +0900
> 
> Eli Zaretskii writes:
> 
>  > I agree, but the issue discussed here is different:
> 
> I have to disagree.  The issue is about *any* technology that can be
> used to convince the user that one URL is being accessed when in fact
> another one is.

Well, I thought "bidirectional" in the subject does mean just that.

> Whether one should try to warn the user is a separate question, which
> depends on the probabilities of legitimate vs. fraudulent displays,
> and the cost of annoyance vs the *avoidable* cost to fraud victims.

I don't think the probability of legitimate vs fraudulent displays is
so low that it justifies the annoyance.

>  > > "We need to decide what we want to do, and then look for a mechanism."
>  > 
>  > OK, let me rephrase: what effect will "turning off" have on
>  > display?
> 
> Whatever the display would be in the absence of an attempt to detect
> and warn about instances of possibly fraudulent use of directional
> controls.

Sorry, couldn't parse this.

>  > Someone(TM) should present a list of well-thought requirements, and we
>  > can take it from there.
> 
> Unfortunately, besides LTR in RTL control, and RTL in LTR control, I
> can't help, not being familiar with the expected display.

Maybe we should simply start with that, and take it from there if
needed.



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