[Freetype] Re: Suggested patch: bitmap fonts, foundry, family and fontconfig/Xft2

[Mike FABIAN]

Torgeir Veimo <address@hidden> さんは書きました:

> On Wed, 2003-04-09 at 16:00, Mike FABIAN wrote:
>> Juliusz Chroboczek <address@hidden> さんは書きました:
>> 
>> > MF> I believe it would be better if the family name which shows up via the
>> > MF> fontconfig/Xft2 API reflected that and the fonts showed up as
>> >
>> > MF>     "Misc Fixed", "Sony Fixed", "Etl Fixed", etc...
>> >
>> > I believe this to be a bad idea -- the family names of Type 1 and BDF
>> > versions of Adobe Courier will then differ.
>> 
>> That is one of the points of my idea. The Type1 version is still
>> called "Courier" and the Bitmap version is called "Adobe Courier" and
>> thus usually not selected, at least not by accident.
>> 
>> If the family names of the Type1 and BDF fonts of Courier, Times, and
>> Helvetica are the same, you may get a bitmap font even if a scalable
>> font of the same name is available.
>> 
>> > I believe that this is a fontconfig/Gnome bug, not something that
>> > should be fixed at the FreeType level.
>> 
>> Then it is also a Qt/KDE bug. You cannot distinguish these fonts in
>> the Qt/KDE font selection dialogs either.
>
> Isn't this mostly for proving bitmap fonts to old style X11 programs,
> which would select fonts using XLFD in any case, while removing the
> bitmap font distribution from XFree86?

Some people want to use bitmap fonts also in modern
applications/desktops like Gnome or KDE. For example many people
prefer bitmap fonts in gnome-terminal or konsole, some want bitmap
fonts even in kwrite or gedit.

In case of Gnome2, if GDK_USE_XFT=1 you can only use fonts via Xft,
you cannot select fonts via XLFD any more.  I believe this is good, it
is ugly to select fonts in two completely different ways, it is much
cleaner to use *only* Xft if it is available. Now Xft works
even without the RENDER extension (although slower), i.e. it can
be used practically always.

But it is not nice if switching to Xft removes the option to use the
old bitmap fonts which many people still like (especially in
terminals) just because it becomes impossible to select the bitmap
font one was previously using via XLFD now via Xft.

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