Re: [Gnu-arch-users] [OT] facism and happiness

[nadim]

So, wrapped up it is for me. Pierce is not dying (and hopefuly will live 
long) so I won't get my answer any time soon. (He even bribed me to stay 
on the thread, ask him)

My vote goes for a cooking thread. Let's see who can first come with the 
best inter-continental freedom dish!

Cheers, Nadim.

PS: I agree, thie cooking thread is going to be flammable.

On Wednesday 21 July 2004 20:05, Tom Lord wrote:
>     > From: nadim <address@hidden>
>     >
>     > > I'm not proposing to quash the topics -- just the threads, for
>     > > now.
>     >
>     > No way! Pierce and I almost found a common ground. He even
>     > promissed that He'll answer a question frankly and directly before
>     > he dies.
>
> Hey... i'm cool with that.   As I said, I'm not up-to-date on the
> threads.  I don't want to interrupt something productive.
>
> But.... how about ..... can you just decide to wrap it up soon?  For
> now --- we can talk about these things in a fresh thread, without all
> the baggage of the back and forths.   A rule of thumb is that starting
> fresh helps people to formulate and express their ideas much, much
> more clearly than a prolonged back-and-forth of quote-then-reply.
>
> One thing I've learned from defending the design of arch on this list:
>
> You can't possibly explain everything and get everyone to agree that
> your explanations are right.   There will always be disagreements.
>
> If you have some good ideas, you should post those from time to time,
> definately.  But when the threads get too twisted to have a focussed
> and widely read converstation, then they aren't productive for anyone.
> You lose nearly nothing by just abandoning a "failed" thread and
> taking up the topic later, in a different context.
>
>     > There was one or two hot points but mainly because of
>     > missunderstnding and I hope things will get better (I can't
>     > promise I  won't get pissed off though)
>
> And, again, my context-free suggestion to "draw the line here" is
> (deliberately) not sensitive to the content of the thread.  If there's
> a few last licks or happy endings to work out here, great!  Go for it,
> please.  But let's each of us, individually (I suggest) pick an
> _arbitrary_ date in the very near future and then resolve: "Hey, I
> don't care what anyone says after that.  I'm not in this thread
> anymore.  I'll catch these guys in the next thread."
>
> Silence in an email thread like this is _not_ equivalent to
> capitulation or resignation.
>
>     > I am still interresting in how fascism is gaining ground in the US
>     > (if it is) because I believe that things happening there have
>     > repercussions here.
>
> Yes, that's one very interesting outcome of the threads, from my
> perspective.   The Internet is very handy.
>
>     > Most USians seem to think that we don't care about the cowboys
>     > land but it's the oposit. We really do care because we think the
>     > US is an important player (unfortunately too long in the bad camp
>     > but that may change)
>     >
>     > Cheers, Nadim
>     >
>     > PS: I'm happy.
> :
> :-)
>
> Thanks,
> -t