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Re: GOP2-5 - ly language discussions
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Graham Percival |
Subject: |
Re: GOP2-5 - ly language discussions |
Date: |
Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:36:30 -0700 |
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On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 12:06:46PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
> Graham Percival <address@hidden> writes:
>
> > I suggest that we have a separate mailing list to discuss wild
> > ideas. Initially these will probably be about modifications to the
> > ly language, but other candidates are mutopia, kickstarter,
> > crowd-typeset music, closer ties with online music editors, etc.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to have a separate list I am not supposed
> to be reading discussing Mutopia, Kickstarter, crowd-typesetting, closer
> ties with online music editors etc.
Then I suggest that you spend more effort trying to avoid making
disparaging comments.
> Instead I would propose a label [talk] in the subject of normal list
> postings. [talk] subjects are not supposed to be subjected to the
> scrutiny desirable for decision-making. People are not supposed to miss
> out on substantial matter or decisions by skipping [talk], so once we
> are talking serious material, remove the [talk] tag.
...
fine, I'll try one more experiment. I think the experiments over
the past month have caused enough problems, but whatever, I can't
see things getting worse than they already are.
> > Any omissions or mistakes in a formal proposal may be subjected to
> > sarcastic and disparaging comments.
>
> No. We may have problems getting to a reasonably common ground of
> communication and decency, but that does not mean that we should tell
> people it is fine to not even try. The net result would be that the
> only people willing to work on LilyPond are rude and thick-hided.
David, the past month of emails from you have *already* been full
of disparaging comments. I'm suggesting that it's ok for you to
continue acting in the same manner as long as it is restricted to
formal proposals. Having a common ground of decency in
communication is something that I've given up on. But hey, if
somebody wants to try moving lilypond-devel in that direction, I'm
not going to complain.
- Graham