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Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by ad
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Joram |
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Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden) |
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Mon, 18 May 2015 15:19:13 +0200 |
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Hi David, hi all,
>> it might not be obvious to strangers to the Helmholtz pitch notation
>> system [1], but shifting the octave is *not* absolute.
>
> LilyPond does not really employ the Helmholtz pitch notation system.
I know. I intended to write that the LP notation is close to the
Helmholtz notation. But it does not matter for my point: shifted octaves
are not absolute. A c'' ("2-gestrichenes c") is a c'' and not a c.
\absolute c'' \music != \music.
> \absolute c'' is proposed as a notational convenience.
>
> Nobody complains that \absolute \transpose c es { c d e }
That's a different case. The music { c d e } is here obviously
transposed by a command that is called like this. \absolute sounds like
the music expression is in absolute octaves – but it is not then.
>> That’s why I strongly recommend not to use \absolute for some kind of
>> non-absolute notation.
>
> Well, that's one argument based on personal associations.
First of all, based on the meaning of the word absolute.
I also see your point about few additional commands.
a) - d) is a good overview. I never used \absolute and I don't know
where I would need it. For backwards compatibility I like a), the best
solution in my opinion is d). And yes, it's difficult.
Cheers,
Joram
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), (continued)
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), tdanielsmusic, 2015/05/17
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), k-ohara5a5a, 2015/05/17
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), dak, 2015/05/17
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), tdanielsmusic, 2015/05/17
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), k-ohara5a5a, 2015/05/17
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), Joram, 2015/05/18
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), Paul Morris, 2015/05/18
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), David Kastrup, 2015/05/18
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), Paul Morris, 2015/05/20
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), David Kastrup, 2015/05/20
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), Werner LEMBERG, 2015/05/20
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), David Kastrup, 2015/05/20
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), James, 2015/05/20
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), Wols Lists, 2015/05/20
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), David Kastrup, 2015/05/20
- Re: absolute pitch entry: accept an offset octave (issue 235010043 by address@hidden), Wols Lists, 2015/05/20