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Re: Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature
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David Kastrup |
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Re: Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature |
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Sun, 06 Jul 2014 17:42:28 +0200 |
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"Phil Holmes" <address@hidden> writes:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Kastrup" <address@hidden>
> To: "Phil Holmes" <address@hidden>
> Cc: "Son_V" <address@hidden>; <address@hidden>
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 4:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature
>
>
>> "Phil Holmes" <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>>>> Well, that makes no sense at all. You can't sing two syllables to a
>>>>> single note.
>>>>
>>>> Well, when singing Monteverdi's Vespers, I remember having to fit about
>>>> a dozen of syllables to some single notes.
>>>>
>>>> Take a look at
>>>> <URL:http://imslp.org/wiki/Special:ImagefromIndex/311853>, page 10. Or
>>>> probably more convincingly interspersed with "normal" syllable
>>>> distributions several times on page 11.
>>>
>>> I don't personally see examples of two syllables per note there: there
>>> are a few where the words could be hyphenated better, that's all I can
>>> see.
>>
>> Page 11. There is a single note for all of "Donec ponem inimicos".
>> Similarly "Tecum principium in die virtutis". Again with "in
>> splendoribus sanctorum ex utero ante luciferum".
>
> I would assume that's simply chant.
As opposed to page 10, it is interspersed with syllable-timed music, and
it needs to obey the total note value in order to keep in synch with
instruments. Also it's not a single singer but multiple voices. So
it's rather chanty than chant.
> Furthermore, note that, simply because a printer does something in
> 1610 doesn't make it correct notation in 2014.
We did sing from modern transcriptions using the same style of notation.
--
David Kastrup
- Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature, Son_V, 2014/07/05
- Re: Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature, Noeck, 2014/07/05
- Re: Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature, Son_V, 2014/07/05
- Re: Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature, Noeck, 2014/07/05
- Re: Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature, Phil Holmes, 2014/07/05
- Re: Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature, David Kastrup, 2014/07/06
- Re: Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature, Phil Holmes, 2014/07/06
- Re: Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature, David Kastrup, 2014/07/06
- Re: Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature, Phil Holmes, 2014/07/06
- Re: Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature, Phil Holmes, 2014/07/06
- Re: Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature, David Kastrup, 2014/07/06
- Re: Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature, Phil Holmes, 2014/07/06
Re: Humble question, text at the second note in a ligature, Pierre Perol-Schneider, 2014/07/05