Re: Upbeat as full measure or not?

[Malte Meyn]

Another idea if it’s unclear what the composer wanted:

The first beat of measures 6 and 40 is not the ending of the phrase 
before, but the beginning of a new one (phrases end in 5 and 39). So in 
my opinion this measure “Bleibe” doesn’t have an “upbeat character”.

On 02.09.2014 12:36, Malte Meyn wrote:
> I think this is not a matter of engraving rules but you should follow
> the composer. (If I was the composer I would prefer a version with a
> full measure beginning with a rest in this case. But I’m not Albert
> Becker.) I’ve seen both versions in different pieces from different
> composers.
>
> Also, your version 1 is wrong. Soprano and Tenor must have r4 r2; I’m
> pretty sure that one never writes full measure rests in a partial measure.
>
> On 02.09.2014 12:21, Alexander Kobel wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I wonder whether a "large" partial measure should be notated as a full
> > measure (rest+upbeat) or a partial measure.  More specifically, it's the
> > beginning of the following piece:
> >
> > - version 1, as partial
> >
> > http://www3.cpdl.org/wiki/images/6/6c/Becker-albert_bleibe-abend-will-es-werden.pdf
> >
> >
> > - version 2, as full measure
> >
> > http://www3.cpdl.org/wiki/images/archive/6/6c/20140721085342%21Becker-albert_bleibe-abend-will-es-werden.pdf
> >
> >
> >
> > It's a time 4/4 { r4 c c c }-style beginning; for time 2/2 { r4 c c c },
> > or time 4/4 { r8 c c c c4 c }, I'd prefer a full measure, but here my
> > intuition is gone.  What looks more sound to your eye?  Or could anybody
> > consult a copy of Gould or similar?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alexander
> >
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