Re: Upbeat as full measure or not?

[Simon Albrecht]

Furthermore, there is the rule that, if there is an upbeat, upbeat and 
last measure of the piece must add up to one full bar. I’m not sure 
where it comes from and how widely it is obeyed, but at least for a 
“classical” period in the 18th to 20th centuries it’s to be regarded as 
standard. So as the last measure of the piece referred to contains a 
whole note, I’d rather not write an upbeat, but fill it up to make the 
first measure.
What’s more, I think an upbeat of three quarter notes’ length is hard to 
grasp at first sight and thus irritates the reader.
HTH, Simon

Am 02.09.2014 um 12:43 schrieb Malte Meyn:
> Another idea if it’s unclear what the composer wanted:
>
> The first beat of measures 6 and 40 is not the ending of the phrase 
> before, but the beginning of a new one (phrases end in 5 and 39). So 
> in my opinion this measure “Bleibe” doesn’t have an “upbeat character”.
>
> On 02.09.2014 12:36, Malte Meyn wrote:
> > I think this is not a matter of engraving rules but you should follow
> > the composer. (If I was the composer I would prefer a version with a
> > full measure beginning with a rest in this case. But I’m not Albert
> > Becker.) I’ve seen both versions in different pieces from different
> > composers.
> >
> > Also, your version 1 is wrong. Soprano and Tenor must have r4 r2; I’m
> > pretty sure that one never writes full measure rests in a partial 
> > measure.
> >
> > On 02.09.2014 12:21, Alexander Kobel wrote:
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > I wonder whether a "large" partial measure should be notated as a full
> > > measure (rest+upbeat) or a partial measure.  More specifically, it's 
> > > the
> > > beginning of the following piece:
> > >
> > > - version 1, as partial
> > >
> > > http://www3.cpdl.org/wiki/images/6/6c/Becker-albert_bleibe-abend-will-es-werden.pdf 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - version 2, as full measure
> > >
> > > http://www3.cpdl.org/wiki/images/archive/6/6c/20140721085342%21Becker-albert_bleibe-abend-will-es-werden.pdf 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It's a time 4/4 { r4 c c c }-style beginning; for time 2/2 { r4 c c 
> > > c },
> > > or time 4/4 { r8 c c c c4 c }, I'd prefer a full measure, but here my
> > > intuition is gone.  What looks more sound to your eye?  Or could 
> > > anybody
> > > consult a copy of Gould or similar?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alexander
> > >
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