Re: Beaming and grace notes

[Shane Brandes]

a short snippet for educational use constitutes fair use.

S.

On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Knute Snortum <address@hidden> wrote:
> You are correct; the original is missing a treble clef.  I am using an early
> edition that has passed into public domain to transcribe, but so far I've
> found three errors in the score.  I'm using a later edition to double check
> from but I'm still transcribing from the earlier one so my transcription is
> free of any copyright.  I should have using the later edition for the
> example.
>
>
> Knute Snortum
> (via Gmail)
>
> On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Rutger Hofman <address@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> Is the original correct? I would guess that a treble clef has been
>> forgotten in the upper staff, at the moment the staff is crossed in the
>> "grace note" run. How else can the run, and especially the cross-staff
>> chords in the last four 1/32 notes make sense?
>>
>> Rutger
>>
>> On 11/29/2014 07:49 PM, Knute Snortum wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah, I see.  Use two voices so one is the eighth note and the other is
>>> the grace notes with their duration divided over the eighth.  This also
>>> gets me the slur.  Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>> Knute Snortum
>>> (via Gmail)
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Keith OHara <address@hidden
>>> <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 07:44:39 -0800, Knute Snortum
>>>     <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Thank you both for your relies.  Keith, your second suggestion
>>>         is what I
>>>         need, if I could designate a zero length note.
>>>
>>>         Requirements:
>>>
>>>         * An actual eighth note
>>>         * Grace notes need to "attached" with a beam to the eighth note
>>>         * Grace notes add no duration to the measure
>>>
>>>         I've attached a picture of the measure.  It has a lot of
>>>         challenges in it
>>>         for me.
>>>
>>>
>>>     These small notes are not what LilyPond's \grace was designed for,
>>>     but more like the small-note tuplet that Harm pointed out.  We want
>>>     these note to be spaced across the beat, but more quickly than their
>>>     visible duration.
>>>
>>>     LilyPond will do most of the beaming you want if you tell her how
>>>     the music splits into two voices at the E-flat.  Ignoring the fact
>>>     that there are two staves for the moment, try something like this:
>>>
>>>     \version "2.18.2"
>>>     {
>>>        \key des\major \clef bass \time 2/4
>>>        aes32 bes aes ges
>>>        <<
>>>          {\voiceTwo ees8 ~ ees4 |}
>>>          \new Voice {
>>>            \voiceOne
>>>            \scaleDurations 4/14 {
>>>              ees32[
>>>              \teeny
>>>              \override Stem  #'no-stem-extend = ##t
>>>              \override Stem  #'length-fraction = #0.7
>>>              ges aes bes des' ges, bes, c  des f] ges[ bes c' des']
>>>              \normalsize
>>>              \revert Stem  #'no-stem-extend
>>>              \revert Stem  #'length-fraction
>>>            }
>>>            f'16-> des'
>>>            c32 des c bes,| } >> }
>>>
>>>     We should probably put a Debussy example in the user manual (if he's
>>>     in public domain in europe by now) and also make a shorthand for
>>>     \graceStyleOn \graceStyleOff because often we want the style but do
>>>     not want LilyPond's \grace timing.
>>>
>>>
>>
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