Re: Dynamic mark at the end of a bar

[Simon Albrecht]

Hello David,

Am 28.05.2015 um 00:17 schrieb David Sumbler:
> On Wed, 2015-05-27 at 16:52 -0500, David Nalesnik wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:03 PM, David Sumbler <address@hidden>
> > wrote:
> >          >
> >          But both of these are "work-arounds" for something which is
> >          actually
> >          fairly normal musical notation.  They are work-arounds because
> >          one
> >          method implies that a note is not really the length that it
> >          appears to
> >          be, and the other method implies that the dynamics actually
> >          belong to
> >          another, silent voice.  Neither of these is true in reality.
> >
> >
> > Actually, I think I was a little imprecise talking about attaching the
> > dynamics to a new voice here.  I created SimultaneousMusic, rather
> > than another Voice context.  Note that this is done commonly enough by
> > users parameterizing their input: one variable is used to store the
> > notes, and another to store the dynamics.
> Simon also made this point - which I accept.
>
> > (This is not to say that there isn't some hackery at work here :) )
>
> >          Ideally one shouldn't have to use trial and error, varying the
> >          length of
> >          the second invisible rest, to get an acceptable appearance.
> >          We know
> >          exactly where the final dynamic should go: it should be
> >          immediately
> >          before the bar-line.
> >
> >
> > Yes, but what of more complex examples, where a composer indicates a
> > number of inflections on a single note?  There are a number of
> > examples of that here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uav-OYUJ7BQ
> > (including a simple one at the very beginning).  How else could you
> > notate these cases without the simultaneous music approach?
> True, but in these cases we actually want the dynamics to be at
> particular points within a bar, so the simultaneous music approach is
> logical.  In my case, I want the dynamic to appear at the end of the bar
> - this, of course is the same moment in time as the start of the next
> bar+, but is not the same point on paper.  The simultaneous music
> approach, however, requires us to pretend that we want the dynamic at
> some arbitrary moment just before the end of the bar.  And the choice of
> that moment will vary, depending on how busy the music is on other
> staves in the same bar.  It might also mean that we have to use one
> value for the score and another for the individual part - yet, in
> reality, we just want the dynamic to appear immediately before the
> bar-line regardless of what is happening elsewhere in the ensemble.
This sounds like a usecase for \afterGrace. I cooked up a music function 
for that, which works quite fine. Does that help you?

Regards, Simon

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