Re: [Mldonkey-users] Now that Filenexus, Sharereactorand Jigle are gone

[kami petersen]

Curtis Magyar wrote:

> On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 12:39 -0500, Esperanza Glass wrote:
>  
>
> > The idea of freenet is interesting. I have tried freenet few years ago
> > and lot might have changed after that. My concern is the overhead that
> > it causes. Would it be possible to incorporate easy to use freenet and
> > freenet interface to existing mldonkey. How much it would increase the
> > traffic? Many people (me included) have very limited bandwidth...
> >
> > hopey
> >    
>
> I agree, flaming should be left on IRC where its expected.
>
>  
me too.

> How does this freenet page compare for speed?
>
> https://freenet.thing.net/address@hidden/FreeReactor/24//
>
>  
sorry to report (honestly), but it takes about 4 minutes to access the 
page (compared to sharereactor.com wich took a ghastly 30 seconds to 
load, at times). the CHK links don't do anything after much trying and 
the links in the right meny finally returns "*Data not found* (Freenet 
could not find the data)". i've also tried restarting. on a side note, 
running freenet costs me between 50 and 80 MB of ram. now, i'm not at 
all into the details of freenet, but i sense that "the masses" would 
have given up long before this.

> Just as an example of course.  It's a terrible page, and the ed2k links
> are plain text in a teeny tiny font so you have to copy/paste them.
>
> But I think in general we could make it work with little to no coding at
> all.  However, adding freenet to mldonkey, and thereby increasing the
> number of freestore sites would help the network as a whole though.  
now, assume that i've managed (and the people i know) to do something 
really wrong with my default install of freenet, java or win2k, and 
that, in fact, it does work.

please explain to the list, your probably the only freenet expert 
around, exactly what the plugin would or could do.

do you mean the plugin would enable everybody to publish a list of their 
ed2k://'s?
or do you simply mean "sneaking" in a full fledged freenet engine into 
mldonkey in order to primarily benefit the freenet as such?
is the point that many people run mldonkey 24/7 and permanent nodes are 
much better than transient? (both for the network and the user)
to what direct benefit of mldonkey users? (different from the standalone 
version of freenet)
or do you mean something like a browser, a forum or a search engine?
how could things be automated and updated?
how does freenet react to extremely popular resources, in terms of 
speed, routing, manageability?
etc.

but the most important one, why plugin, not standalone?

> I'm
> a pretty proficient C coder, but what I've looked at in OCaml, only left
> me confused and frustrated.
>
>  
notice that i provided the option for you not to identify with 
"vaporware hackers", but now, here's the line that has been seen so many 
times before. (i fit the description too)

cheers,
kami

ps. stop cc:ing me, i'm on the list!