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Re: [playogg-discuss] playogg/faq: unclear phrase


From: Ineiev
Subject: Re: [playogg-discuss] playogg/faq: unclear phrase
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 10:30:21 +0000

On 5/4/10, Oleg Koptev <address@hidden> wrote:
> NB. Not always 'companies' are behind the software. It could be 'one man
> army' project, like...for example Apollo player.

If a man can be an army, a man can easily be a company; generally, all companies
are run by some people.

> So while it is not proved it shouldn't be said. Presumption of innocence.

True. we can't state, even though we may suspect.

> I'm sure about few :) Why? Just because I know there're no reason to spy for
> them (people coding that software).  Just because.

That is, you don't know any reason to spy (?)

However, I think you are right, there must be some proprietary players
which are not spyware.

>> I believe it means they (at least) "report what each
>> user watches or listens to".
> So it must be declared in EULA.
> If user agreed with EULA than it is not spying.

Yes, it is.

> It is free-will assignation of data to company.

* Would the end user actually add those EULA clauses
  if the EULA were written by the end user?

* Is the end user typically aware of those clauses?

> If it is not in EULA it must be punished by law.

* There are a lot of ethical issues the law does not cover.

* What we want is to stop the companies mistreat the users
  rather than to punish anybody.

>> But the paragraph does compare MP3 and Ogg Vorbis.
> Really? Where exactly? I see only comparison about relative size.

Probably the wording is careless, indeed. I thought it implied MP3 because
the page did not mention other proprietary formats (even in form
"other formats").

Do you think it can be reworded like
"You don't lose any technical quality with Ogg."
(with no particular codec format specified)?

Kindest regards,
Ineiev




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