Re: [Protux-devel] Regarding Release Coordination

[Luciano Giordana]

> only got 1 feedback from a user till now :-(  )

I believe this is a marketing problem, not a development problem, hehe

protux is usable enough to catch community attention. The problem is that we 
are hardly mentioned . We should get some review at linuxapps, linuxtoday, 
wherever ... But Audio tools are a very specific area, and maybe we should 
look for more specilized websites...

just for curiosity.. libmustux 0.19.9 is on mandrake9.2 distro.. but no 
protux! it does not make sense....


> Releasing it with known bugs is not such a good idea :-P
>
> When somebody starts protux and the first thing he/she notices that this or
> that feature isn't working he/she will be disapointed and get its hands of,
> and we have a user less we can rely on.
>
> But it's indeed not such an important thing right now, maybe after 0.50.0?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Remon
>
> On Thursday 04 December 2003 01:38, Luciano Giordana wrote:
> > I somehow had decided something like that. The only major releases will
> > be 0.30, 040, 050, 0.60, 0.70,0.80, 0.90 and 1.0 only (more 8 only), no
> > more intermediate release, only via CVS.
> >
> > But there is no need to fork CVs, althought this a good idea. The "major
> > releases" are just points to expand the marketing and get a bigger user
> > base so we get the feedback.
> >
> > for example, next 0.30 will have the undo engine (among other things).
> > This is important step and I believe it worths a major release. Also,
> > dont worry TOO Much in stabilization of any relaease before 1.0. Only
> > partial stabilization, just to have a good binary and expand our user
> > base.
> >
> > the 1.0 is the real  "FIRST" protux. all the releases so far are just a
> > branch of unstable code.  :-)
> >
> > On Wednesday 03 December 2003 05:30 pm, Remon Sijrier wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I had some little discussion about this with Reinhard and unfortunately
> > > this conversation didn't go via protux-devel and I deleted those mails
> > > per accident. So I have to do it with my memory ;-)
> > >
> > > Most important point was this:
> > >
> > > "Do not release protux until everything is finished/tested/updated
> > > etc.."
> > >
> > > I understand this puts a high limit on development when nearing to a
> > > release, but it has been a month ago since 0.20.0 is out, and the
> > > website and docs are still _very_ out of date....
> > > Of course, protux is meant to in development mode til 0.50.0, but if
> > > you rely to much on this, it doesn't make sense to release "major"
> > > releases at all
> > >
> > >
> > > So I suggest to do it different in the future:
> > >
> > > Split CVS into "stable" and "head" This must be somehow possible. When
> > > nearing the next major release, fork CVS into "stable" and "HEAD",
> > > freeze the "stable" branch and continue development on "head". Only
> > > bugfixes will be excepted for the "stable" branch. (which makes it for
> > > me much easier to add bugfixes to a release. It's very hard for me to
> > > do it now. Also for other people to download the bugfixes to test it)
> > > Then go for testing "stable" until there are no more important bugs,
> > > and _after_ the docs and website has been updated, announce the new
> > > release.
> > >
> > > One of the things which happend just before the 0.20.0 release was that
> > > there were a bunch of features added which introduces new bugs. That's
> > > of course annoying and IMHO should be avoided. With the release
> > > structure mentioned above this will no longer happen, and also prevents
> > > the developer to do such things.
> > >
> > > I also prefer to have something like a "release coordinator". Although
> > > it may seem a bit of overstructuring the whole process, it puts of the
> > > load from the developers, and a release only comes when it is time....
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks and RFC please.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > Remon
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Luciano Giordana
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Project Protux : Professional Audio Tools for GNU/Linux
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