Re: [Savannah-hackers] arabic project should be GNU web-only

[Sylvain Beucler]

Hi,

A bit more work is needed. Here are my concerns:

- currently, when creating a GNU projects, I can trigger an automatic
  creation of www.gnu.org/software/projectname/. If one need another
  location, I have to ask Jim (the FSF sysadmin) to bind the webpages
  CVS repository to a given place at www.gnu.org. Web-only projects
  are currently a bit broken in that regard, I create them as GNU and
  switch them then to Web-only, and if needed ask Jim to change the
  location. So far, we had very few web-only projects, so there were
  no issue (except, now that I check, maybe the /gugve group, that
  should be located at nongnu.org instead of gnu.org IMHO). The
  official meaning of GNU-webonly projects is to provide only a way to
  update www.gnu.org/something, eg webpages of GNU projects whose
  development is not done at Savannah, or the GPL quiz webpages, among
  others.

  anyway, when I create a project for a translation team, whatever its
  project type, I don't know where to store them. The issue was not to
  decide whether projects had to get a separate account: they do need
  one, including a private CVS repository, mailing lists and a web
  account for their own needs. The problem is to know where to store
  their personnal web pages. Currently, they are scattered in
  /software/teamname and /teamname, AFAIR.

  Did you (the webmasters) decide where to host translation teams
  "coordination" personnal webpages?

- about whether a translation team (web-only, or broader) should be
  marked as part of the GNU project on the Savannah website, I suggest
  we ask the policy question to RMS. It is possible to create another
  group type called "www.gnu.org translation teams" with special
  creation rules, and it is also possible to create 2 projects for
  non-web-only translation teams (one for www.gnu.org, one for
  software).

  What do you think?

-- 
Sylvain

On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 02:03:16AM +0100, Alex Muntada wrote:
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> * Sylvain Beucler <address@hidden>:
>   [2004-12-21 17:42:04 +0100]
> 
> > Subject: [gnu.org #211821] Re: [Savannah-hackers] TarGNUm project webpage
> > From: "Derek Chen-Becker via RT" <address@hidden>
> > To: address@hidden
> > Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:16:54 -0400
> > 
> > > address@hidden - Tue Oct 05 14:15:16 2004]:
> > >
> > > GNU Webmasters,
> > >
> > > Could you tell us what is the layout for translation projects?
> > >
> > 
> > OK, I discussed this on the list and we've come to the decision that
> > translation projects should reside on Savannah as their own projects. If
> > a translation team has a project page on Savannah, the webmasters should
> > be notified so that we can update the translation README page with links.
> 
> This refers to the following discussion:
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/private/www-discuss/2004/002656.html
> 
> But, no decision on nongnu.org was made. The decision only refers
> to host translation teams' pages on savannah.
> 
> My question on the arabic project to webmasters didn't get any
> successful replies, i.e. nobody remembers having decided that
> translation teams should go to nongnu.org. Luckily enough, a
> new persian project was submitted and Karl resent that question
> to webmasters:
> 
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/private/www-discuss/2004/002985.html
> 
> This time, it was felt that nobody knows for sure (sigh!) but
> that those projects should probably be GNU web-only.
> 
> Since it seems that webmasters haven't any arguments against
> GNU web-only projects, I'd prefer to see both arabic and persian
> project under savannah.gnu.org. Note that, even though the arabic
> project could have a broader interest, its main purpose is
> translation (they won't be able to maintain /software translated
> pages without the project maintainer, anyway). So, it's ok to
> mark them GNU web-only.
> 
> For future requests on GNU web-only projects, please contact
> <address@hidden> (we'll verify that there's no overlap
> and then you could create the project).
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - --
> Alex Muntada <address@hidden>
> GNU Translation Manager
> http://alexm.org/
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Sylvain