Re: [Therion] Vercors 2008

[Eric Madelaine]

Hello Thierry,

    I clearly support the 2level planning, target respectively at users 
(beginners or not ) and at experts/developers.
    Do you already have ideas of other topics/people planned for the 
first level (I have heard of a toporobot presentation) ? Should we try 
to get people from the US survey software community also (I dont know 
how many plan to be there).
    I also have heard rumors about some display of fancy computer 
generated surveys. Anything official ? If  we want to have many nice 
things displayed we have to advertise it widely; may be some sort of 
contest ?

    Speaking of Cave Inventories... I will certainly offer to do a 
presentation / demo of the software we are using in the Alpes-Maritimes.
    Otherwise, I'm nor very optimistic about the idea of "european 
guidelines"... I've been in several french level groups working on this 
topic, I've also been part of the HTO group, some 8 or 10 years ago... I 
know about the UIS existing guidelines...
None of those has been very successful. The situation is particularily 
bad in france, and of course not for technical reasons, but for 
political reasons of people not wanting to loose control of their data. 
I don't think I want to invest more work in this area, unless the 
overall situation changes drastically.

Eric.

thierrygonon a écrit :

>Well, so here's my summary of the talks of this week : we can make a 
>general discussion about cave surveys softwares (for example in the 
>karst and cave inventory session already planned (with nothing inside 
>and which I'm responsible for)) and after that, we propose to make a 
>2-levels workshop : for beginners or new users ; for advanced users and 
>developpers. I propose that the second workshop take place AFTER the 
>beginner's one, to take the advantage of the discussion of this first one.
>Now, the problem is to know the SIZE of our workshops. For the session, 
>I think it's OK. I plan to make a full day of presentation and after 
>that, a half-day round-table about CAVE INVENTORIES : I'd like to put on 
>paper some general guidelines for european inventories, so that we can 
>find on every national inventories in Europe some common features, at 
>the same (top) level of records...
>For the workshops, the problem I know is that we don't have a lot of big 
>rooms in Lans (Eric, it's in *Lans en Vercors*, not in La Chapelle)... 
>And at the same time, it's not easy to make a workshop with a lot of 
>persons. So it could be better to organize 2 level 1 workshops (one in 
>the morning, the second in the afternoon) with maybe 20 persons. I think 
>it could be better if the persons interested could register, to know how 
>many persons will come (register directly at Vercors 2008 to me, and 
>just after the general presentations). Do we ask the persons who will 
>come to come with their laptop ?? Maybe 2 persons can work on one laptop ?
>For this first workshop, we could prepare a liveCD with a Linux and 
>therion (last version) for the people who doesn't have therion 
>installed... If someone know how to make such a LiveCD...?
>For the second workshop, I think we could register directly on this list !
>
>So, that will be this in my opinion :
>Day 1 : (all day) General session about karst and cave inventories and 
>survey softs (not only therion...)
>
>Day 2 : (morning) Round-table about cave inventories
>             (morning) Therion workshop (level 1)
>
>             (afternoon) Therion workshop (level 1)
>
>Day 3 : (morning) Therion workshop (level 2)
>
>Any comments are welcome of course !!!!
>
>Thierry
>
>Olly Betts a écrit :
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>>On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 02:14:23PM +0100, Eric Madelaine, INRIA wrote:
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>>>Does not change the requirements, we have to provide practical info to 
>>>the organizers. I think it is important that the workshop should be 
>>>explicitely in the Congres program, both for visibility reasons and for 
>>>practical reasons (no way to find a room in La Chapelle by ourself at 
>>>that time).
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>>Well, I'd certainly like to come along, and I'm probably up for giving
>>some sort of talk or presentation if I do.
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>>Cheers,
>>    Olly
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