Re: [Tlf-devel] Fw: Autosend feature - first tests

[Thomas Beierlein]

Fred,

a configurable timeout is an option. Adding that option is quite some work -
shall it be configured from the logcfg.dat or from command line? When
should a change be allowed, ....

For the moment I am interested if we got the main functionality right.
You can change the timeout in the code for testing, but sure that can
not be the final solution.

One problem with slow typers: You will get pauses in your cw signal if
you use some speed. Maybe best would be to adapt that timeout to the cw
speed. 

73, Tom DL1JBE

Am Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:48:40 +0000
schrieb FS <address@hidden>:

> Tom,
> 
> what about to make this 0.7s configureable? This would give headroom
> for the slow typers, as well as make it useable with different speeds.
> 
> 73 Fred
> 
> On 11/12/2013 09:08 AM, Thomas Beierlein wrote:
> > Sorry, forgot to send a copy to the list. Here it comes.
> >
> > Tom DL1JBE
> >
> >
> > Datum: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:07:03 +0100
> > Von: Thomas Beierlein <address@hidden>
> > An: address@hidden
> > Betreff: Re: Autosend feature - first tests
> >
> >
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > Am Tue, 12 Nov 2013 00:33:09 +0100
> > schrieb Martin Kratoska <address@hidden>:
> >> there is something strange. tlf does not see now hamlib, so no
> >> radio control :-(
> >>
> > Maybe you forgot the '--enable-hamlib' in the ./configure stage?
> >
> >> The Autosend option works but not exactly as meant. The auto
> >> sending begins with the character count as set with :char command,
> >> this is OK. Setting :char to 4 actually moves the cursor to the
> >> exchange field while tlf is sending 2nd character.
> >
> > That depends a little on your typing speed. But you are right. It
> > moves to the exchange field as soon as you stop typing.
> >
> > The reason for this behavior is that we can not do the same
> > handling as in TRLog. As TRLog sends the CW characters itself
> > (integrated keyer) it knows exactly how far it is with sending the
> > already typed in characters and when it catches your typing.
> >
> > For us using cwdaemon, the usbdaemon or Andys winkeyer daemon means
> > we can send out the characters to the keying daemon but get no
> > feedback how far it is with sending and therefore we have no
> > information when the daemon catches your typing.
> >
> > So I suggested to use a timeout instead. As soon as you stop typing
> > (atm after 0.7s) it assumes the call sign is complete and then it
> > switches to the exchange field. It fear it is the best we
> > can do without doing the whole keying stuff in tlf itself.
> >
> > Any ideas how to come around that are welcome.
> >
> >> Therefore the op has not
> >> time till 4th character is finished, here I have time actually only
> >> till 1st character is completed.
> >
> > Not quite. As described above you have 0.7 seconds for each
> > character you want to type.
> >
> > 73, de Tom DL1JBE
> >>
> >> 73 Martin, OK1RR
> >>
> >> Dne 11.11.2013 13:35, Thomas Beierlein napsal(a):
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I just finished the first quick version of the new autosend
> >>> feature.
> >>>
> >>> Please download the zip archive from
> >>> https://github.com/Tlf/tlf/archive/autosend.zip unpack it and then
> >>> change to the directory.
> >>>
> >>> 'autoreconf --install'
> >>> './configure ....'
> >>> 'make'
> >>> 'make install'
> >>>
> >>> should build it.
> >>>
> >>> Some comments:
> >>> - Set autostart with ':char' as before (0 - off, 2..5 sets, ESC
> >>> keeps old value)
> >>> - timeout is 0.7s (enough if you get a hiccup while typing, short
> >>> enough to work even at 30 wpm and very short calls
> >>> - call will accept also '/' and '?' characters
> >>> - you can stop with ESC as before
> >>>
> >>> Please test and report back.
> >>>
> >>> I think autosend is only useful in RUN mode. I will block it for
> >>> S&P if you aggree.
> >>>
> >>> 73, de Tom DL1JBE.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am Sun, 10 Nov 2013
> >>> 16:38:47 +0100 schrieb Fred Siegmund <address@hidden>:
> >>>
> >>>> Indeed.
> >>>>
> >>>> 73 Fred
> >>>> Am 07.11.2013 21:25, schrieb Martin Kratoska:
> >>>>> Excellent! You hit the nail, Tom!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 73,
> >>>>> Martin, OK1RR
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dne 7.11.2013 21:13, Thomas Beierlein napsal(a):
> >>>>>> Ok. Lets summarize:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - autostart after 2..5 characters (configurable)
> >>>>>> - shorter calls have to be finished with the normal ENTER
> >>>>>> - as soon as autosend starts there will be no chance to edit
> >>>>>> bad characters, all you type in will be send
> >>>>>> - start sending exchange after a keyboard timeout (100..200 ms)
> >>>>>> - only alfanumerical keys (and ENTER) accepted  after autosend
> >>>>>> starts
> >>>>>> - SPACE and DOWN will no longer start autosend
> >>>>>> - SPACE will toggle cursor between call and exchange input
> >>>>>> field
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 73, de Tom DL1JBE
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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