Re: [open-cobol-list] How does our community work?

[Wim Niemans]

I see that the current release is 1.3J.

And the integration with Perl and PHP is a great achievement.

I would be very interested to know more on that release or give it a try.

Wim

Op 27 jun. 2013, om 19:02 heeft Brian Tiffin het volgende geschreven:

Patrick, et al;

I'm not totally up on the Consortium works, but yeah, the jp.opencobol.org is on the same server, and would have had the comment bots pollute that side as well.

See http://www.opencobol.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1490&forum=1 for some news about the 1.1J version.  Eventually, some of that will be folded into 1.1CE (except for things like Yen being the default currency symbol).  If I'm not mistaken, 1.1J has Perl and PHP integrations worked out.  Again, if I'm not mistaken, 1.1J is the version in used for supporting the Nagasaki Prefecture (lucky boys and girls there get to work OpenCOBOL on a NEC PX9000)

So yes, it's a fork of OpenCOBOL 1.1 and split source tree, more suitable for Asian business use, but as stated, eventually we'll pull and merge some of the changes.

When 2.0 rolls, it has the Japanese .po files included, so it'll ship with English, Spanish and Japanese compiler messages and warnings.   Anyone wanting to help out with translations, drop Simon a note on SourceForge.

Cheers,

Brian

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Patrick <address@hidden> wrote:

On 13-06-27 01:28 AM, Brian Tiffin wrote:

Patrick,

Correct on the dates.  Yes Keisuke started opencobol.org, and I now have keys.  The ad banner pretty much pays for the hosting, bills still to Keisuke.  We won't likely be patching Xoops if that is what you mean.  Activity has moved to SourceForge and I'm partly to blame for letting opencobol.org sit in the position it is in.  It needs to be set readonly, with a page stating so.  Don't want to.  Should.  If it can cause confusion, it needs to be rectified.  Don't want to.  Frickin' spam bots.

The list has always been through SourceForge.  The project was registered on the Forge back in 2001.  And yeah opencobol.org went into mothball after spambots took over the place.  Insidious comment spam accumulated for years, then eventually the database engine couldn't feed the spider bots fast enough.  Humans rarely looked at the pages that had the spam, but the google bots did.  And it tripped up the system.  Cleaning it up became a hassle that none of the principals could afford time to struggle with.  It's now in mothball, but not really marked as such, other than a forum post.  SourceForge manages the robot account requests, we breath easy and get on with COBOL and not sweeping poop off the web.

I don't like to pester Keisuke, but he is always open when needs be.  Bernard can pull some strings when necessary as well.

For now, I'm ignoring duties at amping down good old opencobol.org while trying to stay on top of Admin and mod duties on the Forge, with Simon doing more than his fair share.  Simon is also managing the SVN source code tree and has the keys to commit privileges.  I posted up a 1.1CE tarball, Simon was wise enough to version the filename, so I'm glad there are professionals around.

There will be spurts and pauses in CE commits.  The Open COBOL Consortium in Japan will be offering some changes, and there are some major contributions that will need to be merged in sooner rather than later.  A note has been sent to FSF and GNU, and it is likely time to pester them again about issues surrounding copyright transfers, which was Roger's plan last time we spoke of it, (umm a fair to long time ago now).

Simon has a contrib directory in the SVN source tree for anyone that wants to get involved without getting into deep compiler sources.  Yayy Wumpus.

For now and the forseeable future, SourceForge is the home Patrick.

Cheers,

Brian 

Hi Brian

Thanks once again for another helpful answer, this clears up a lot and I think will be a useful post to send newbies to for a long time.

Does the Open COBOL Consortium in Japan post their code online? It looks like the jp. subdomain of open Cobol shut down about the same time as the English one did. Did the code base divide at this time between English and Japanese?

While I can speak basic Japanese I was never able to read it properly.

http://www.opencobol.com/

Seems to use a image to display text and I can't use machine translation to figure out what it says. Is this related to open Cobol?

-Patrick

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