Re: [open-cobol-list] advanced Cobol books ?

[Patrick]

Hi Brian, Hello Steve

I have been studying Cobol diligently for the past 8 to 9 months.

There are still many things I don't know well but having all my failures 
still fresh in my memory could make me a good teacher.

I have urgent-urgent family matters to attend to, on an on-going basis,  
I can't be depended on to get much of anything done on a fixed schedule 
but I would be willing to write about Cobol if it would help. Perhaps 
you guys could start with the advanced parts and I could cover the 
simpler stuff?

The peer review process after could help me to correct mistakes I might 
have made learning the language.

I also have purchased a book on Scribus and plan to use this desktop 
publishing software for my business anyways, I might be bale to help 
layout a text book later.

However again, everyday I wake up ready to work but most days I don't, 
as there are people to attend to, I can't be trusted to keep a 
schedule-Patrick








On 08/13/2013 12:59 PM, Brian Tiffin wrote:
> Steve;
>
> I'm keen to promote COBOL, OpenCOBOL in particular.  Would you be up
> for developing a first year level curriculum?  I started a Moodle
> page, but got bogged down in the moodle bits and lost the focus of the
> actual lessons.  It might take a while, and a few iterations, but if
> you could provide a point form list of the topics to cover in what
> order, maybe we can start filling in details suitable for courseware
> material?  And, if the material passed muster, maybe an open text book
> suitable for Wikiversity and printing.
>
> One aspect I'm also keen to try is Inform-7 native and web based
> training games.  Make an adventure out of learning the four DIVISIONs
> for instance, with Grace Hopper playing a leading role in both
> positive and negative feedback.  The reward for the fist lesson would
> be a cut'n'paste-able source code skeleton (again, just for instance,
> which could even be customized for standard formatting expected for
> each school, or training facility).
>
> Just pondering.
>
> Cheers,
> Brian
>
> On 8/10/13, Steve Gomori <address@hidden> wrote:
> > I teach COBOL at a major, Midwestern (USA) university and we have struggled
> > for years to find a decent text. We gave up. The students have access to
> > the
> > Stern & Stern text on-line with Safari (all students at our university have
> > access to the Safari on-line library) but we no longer require them to
> > purchase a text. Expensive and not satisfactory.
> >
> > I use Open COBOL in the course, and I prepared my own materials. It's a one
> > semester course, and not what one would call "advanced."
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick [mailto:address@hidden
> > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 1:20 PM
> > To: address@hidden
> > Subject: [open-cobol-list] advanced Cobol books ?
> >
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > i bought these books:
> >
> > Stern/Stern/LEY Cobol for 21st Century
> > Murach's Structured Cobol
> >
> > I have really enjoyed them but as I read through them, there were many
> > little things that I thought were missing from the language that I wished
> > were there.
> >
> > Reading through Gary Cutler's Open Cobol Programmers guide, I realized that
> > all those little missing things are in open Cobol.
> >
> > I wasted about $150 buying 9 used object oriented Cobol books. I thought
> > they would cover OO and modern features of the language but each one only
> > covered OO, almost all with different implementations and I don't
> > personally
> > feel I even need OO now.
> >
> > Could anyone recommend one or more advanced Cobol books that are similar to
> > Gary's book's coverage of the language ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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