Re: [Denemo-devel] Help Needed

[Richard Shann]

On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 13:35 +0100, Edgar Aichinger wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2013, 09:30:23 schrieb Richard Shann:
> > On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 17:56 +0100, Andreas Schneider wrote:
> > > but on master the Debian package is now built without
> > > problems 
> > 
> > Could someone educate me about what this means? Does this mean that we
> > could post up a Debian package which anyone on a compatible distro could
> > apt-get install and have a chance of getting something working?
> > 
> > What is the procedure for generating the Debian package. (And, what
> > about the OpenSuse package that has been built, how is that different
> > and could we usefully host it?).
> 
> openSUSE uses RPM as package format, which is organized a bit differently: 
> with rpm itself you collect what's needed - the source tarball, patches, 
> possibly icon and .desktop files, and put them to specific places in a 
> directory 
> SOURCES/ under /usr/src/packages(SUSE) or /usr/src/redhat (Fedora). Then 
> you have to write a text file that controls the package build, call it 
> <packagename>.spec and put that into SPECS/ in that same tree. 
> Running "rpmbuild -ba" on a .spec file will then result in binary/noarch 

What could a user do with these binary/noarch files ? (I have no
experience with this sort of thing - it came as a surprise to me that
the LilyPond site had a script with binaries embedded that would install
an entire file hierarchy beneath your home directory with all the needed
libraries and executables to run LilyPond).
 I understand that this package creation is something different -
perhaps that the binary within the package can only usefully be placed
in /usr/bin or some such, i.e. requires root permissions - or indeed can
only usefully be placed there by a program like apt-get that takes care
of installing other stuff, of if not perhaps requires the relevant
runtime packages (libfluidsynth ...) to be installed in the system.

Hmm, I can see that I am wallowing in uncertainty here - is there
something that we can do that would enable users with a specific distro
to run a command or two that we could give on the dememo.org website
that would install them a version of Denemo that we have built for that
distro? Or is the dependency thing so bad that they would frequently
have conflicting requirements from other packages they have installed?
Is there no way to tell a package manager to install a package just for
the current user?


> and source .rpm files
> 
> I'm using the Open Build Service though, because it gives me many advantages.
> It builds on the remote build farm, can deliver packages for all supported 
> openSUSE 
> versions, even for several other distributions, and anyone using my home 
> repository
> can update using his/her distro package management tools, as soon as the 
> build 
> service publishes the binaries.

Eloi - is this the same sort of thing as the one you have set up
(travis)?

Richard