Re: Look and Feel

[Gregory John Casamento]

Randi,

--- Randi Joseph <randi@codehalo.com> wrote:

> Seeing how some guys on this shoot down newcomers and any new or 
> alternate ideas is disturbing. I can only imagine the amount of bright 
> minds that came and left. The crown jewels here are the API and 
> language, and I think MANY people will come if the brand is updated.

Indeed.
 
> As it stands, it appears that the GNUSTEP guys (and gals) are 
> preserving some pipe dream that even the NEXT guys abandoned. If this 
> is not the case, then perhaps sometimes you would be willing to openly 
> vote on some ideas, like some (not necessarily all) of the changes that 
> folks like jesse proposed.

If you are speaking in regards to the UI: No one is against the creation of a
new theme for GNUstep.   For me personally, my only concern was how it was
done, not whether it was done or not. :)  My preference is that it be
implemented as a theme in Camaelon.

Themes in GNUstep are a very different beast than in GNOME or KDE.  Typically,
themes override certain portions of the drawing code in GNUstep to achieve a
new look.  GNUstep is a complex piece of work and the creation of a new look
for it is, by no means, a simple task. 

> At the same time, I want to say that what you have accomplished as far 
> as providing an open implementation is great, has great potential and I 
> wont be going anywhere. This is where i'll develop my free 
> applications.

Thanks.  That's cool.

> But guys,  please, please, please stay open-minded or at some point we 
> may be seeing Slashdot articles like "GNUSTEP: Jobsians or 
> Stallmanists?"
> 
> Haha.

I would hate to think that simply rejecting or arguing against ideas that don't
make sense is perceived as being "closed-minded."  That is not to say that
recent suggestions dont make sense, I'm speaking in general terms only on this
point.
 
> -randi

GJC


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Gregory John Casamento 
-- CEO/President Open Logic Corp. (A MD Corp.)
## Maintainer of Gorm (IB Equiv.) for GNUstep.