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Re: idea -> internal frames?
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Kevin A. Burton |
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Re: idea -> internal frames? |
Date: |
24 Oct 2001 13:13:55 -0700 |
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"Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/address@hidden> writes:
> > A good example is the speedbar. I like the speedbar in Emacs 21... the
> > only
> > problem is that it gets lost in my other X applications (mozilla, xterms,
> > etc).
> >
> > If I could keep it within my current maximized Emacs frame this would allow
> > me
> > get work done and keep the speedbar close at hand.
> >
> > The key here is that this would be "superior" to other windows. AKA
> > (delete-other-windows) would have no affect on an internal frame.
>
> I'm not sure whether it justifies `internal frames'.
> But I agree that window manipulation could/should be improved. Another
> example was for the EDE (if I remember correctly) where they wanted
> to have a small side-window (for speedbar kind of things) and a small
> bottom window (for *Compilation* kind of things) and then allow the user
> to split/unsplit the main remaining window without trashing those two
> other ones.
dedicated windows? The thing is that I think they should look somewhat
different than regular windows... maybe have their own minibuffer?
> Maybe we could try to make the window-hierarchy (inside a frame) more
> constraining (i.e. have C-x o only switch within some subset and have another
> C-x 7 o to get outside of the set of windows). I'm not sure I'm making
> sense...
It would need to be more flexible. I wrote the original "PluginHolder"
implementation for the jEdit editor. It has the ability to hold a "plugin" at
NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, and WEST. You can also split these locations into multiple
frames and store more than one plugin in each section.
It would be nice if Emacs had a similar system.
> Of course, another solution is to use multiple frames and then ask your
> window-manager to keep them positioned in a particular way. `scwm' had that
> ability since you could use its constraint-solver to force some frames to
> always stay side-by-side or to have the same height or ... Sadly, sawfish
> killed scwm.
Yes. This was another thing brought up in the design of PluginManager. It
seems that about 50% of the people want to have these things as a dedicated
window and the other 50% want this as an "inner window" (or whatever it is
called).
Either viewpoint is valid of course...
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- idea -> internal frames?, Kevin A. Burton, 2001/10/24
- Re: idea -> internal frames?, Eli Zaretskii, 2001/10/24
- Re: idea -> internal frames?, Kevin A. Burton, 2001/10/24
- Re: idea -> internal frames?, Stefan Monnier, 2001/10/24
- Re: idea -> internal frames?, Eli Zaretskii, 2001/10/24
- Re: idea -> internal frames?, Robert J. Chassell, 2001/10/24
- Re: idea -> internal frames?,
Kevin A. Burton <=
- Re: idea -> internal frames?, Stefan Monnier, 2001/10/24
- Re: idea -> internal frames?, Richard Stallman, 2001/10/28
- Re: idea -> internal frames?, Eli Zaretskii, 2001/10/28
- Re: idea -> internal frames?, Richard Stallman, 2001/10/29
- Re: idea -> internal frames?, Kevin A. Burton, 2001/10/29
- Re: idea -> internal frames?, Richard Stallman, 2001/10/30
- Re: idea -> internal frames?, Kevin A. Burton, 2001/10/30
- Re[2]: idea -> internal frames?, Eric M. Ludlam, 2001/10/29
- Re: idea -> internal frames?, Eli Zaretskii, 2001/10/30
- Re: idea -> internal frames?, Kevin A. Burton, 2001/10/29