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Re: AW: Fwd: CEDET sync


From: joakim
Subject: Re: AW: Fwd: CEDET sync
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:07:57 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux)

"Stephen J. Turnbull" <address@hidden> writes:

> David Kastrup writes:
>
>  > Worms may wriggle, too.  The question is whether there is a central
>  > agency moving forward.
>
> Of course *we* have a central agency moving forward.  It's called
> "Emacs", and it has bright red taillights we can follow through the
> fog.
>
> It's *you* guys who have to *worry* about being a pack of wriggling
> worms, not us.[1]  Worse, your development is constrained by political
> considerations that have saddled you with a 1990s bug tracker and a
> VCS that gives 1980s performance while satisfying the requirement to
> support 1970s workflows.  Not to mention massive internal obstacles to
> benefitting from work done by anybody who doesn't actively pledge
> allegiance to Emacs. :-(

People enjoying Lisp systems and Emacs in particular often seem to agree
that some computer science concepts only get better with age, right?

The comparision with 1980:s style VCS:es seems unfair though, I dont
recall using any VCS in the 80:s with the bazaar feature set.

> I really don't think you should kid yourselves about how thriving
> Emacs is.  On the other hand, I don't think there's anything
> inherently fatal in being an uncoordinated pack of hackers.
>
> Footnotes: 
> [1]  Of course we are a pack of wriggling worms just as you are, and
> just as every FLOSS project that has grown beyond the single hacker
> scale is.  The difference is that being #2 means we have an obvious
> direction for progress.
>
-- 
Joakim Verona




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