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Re: Feature change or bug - Emacs server
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Ted Zlatanov |
Subject: |
Re: Feature change or bug - Emacs server |
Date: |
Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:57:46 -0500 |
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Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 01:45:11 +0200 Antoine Levitt <address@hidden> wrote:
AL> It looks hard and bug-inducing to reimplement the network manager
AL> applet.
Do you know this for sure? It seems that the interface is entirely
through D-BUS, which is not a hard protocol to support in ELisp.
AL> In general, having menus (applications, places, system, network
AL> manager, whatever) pop up from emacs looks like a good compromise,
AL> as well as a good "compatibility mode".
I'd really prefer to avoid such hacks, though they may work in the short
term. They tend to make life very difficult over the long term.
AL> I for one would be very happy to be rid of all that gnome nonsense and
AL> just run emacs and a light fullscreen-oriented wm (that and some kind of
AL> customizable bidirectional emacs <-> rest of the world notification
AL> system are the only thing I really need, and I suspect many people as
AL> well. For notifications, I currently use gnome-osd, which sucks less
AL> than notify-osd, but not by far.)
Ah, you're my notifications.el beta tester then :) Stay tuned.
AL> One of the things preventing me from doing that (aside from
AL> laziness, obviously) is the traybar (where apps can put their little
AL> icons, and, on ubuntu, where system thingies (sound, network, etc.)
AL> used to be, before they moved to some new fancy buggy framework).
I asked about that and it's unlikely we can support it in Emacs.
I don't consider that a great loss, though some may want it. Also note
that on NS/Carbon/Cocoa and W32 this won't be available anyhow.
I think there are standalone apps that can be the icon tray in X.
AL> I used to file the "move away from gnome and reclaim control on my
AL> desktop" in my "some day" mental TODO list, but ubuntu's plans of
AL> ditching everything that's remotely usable anymore in the next release
AL> might accelerate the process.
Yeah, I'm really tired of the balkanization of the X desktop. It's as
if everyone is simply racing to mimic the W32 and Mac OS X platforms,
which is not a race worth winning.
Ted
Feature change or bug - Emacs server, T.V Raman, 2011/06/13
- Re: Feature change or bug - Emacs server, Mohsen BANAN, 2011/06/13
- Re: Feature change or bug - Emacs server, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/13
- Re: Feature change or bug - Emacs server, Michael Albinus, 2011/06/13
- Re: Feature change or bug - Emacs server, Antoine Levitt, 2011/06/13
- Re: Feature change or bug - Emacs server,
Ted Zlatanov <=
- Re: Feature change or bug - Emacs server, Tim Cross, 2011/06/13
- Re: Feature change or bug - Emacs server, Antoine Levitt, 2011/06/14
- Re: Feature change or bug - Emacs server, joakim, 2011/06/14
- Re: Feature change or bug - Emacs server, Michael Albinus, 2011/06/14
Re: Feature change or bug - Emacs server, joakim, 2011/06/13
Re: Feature change or bug - Emacs server, Tim Cross, 2011/06/13