Re: poor additions in quail/latin-ltx

[Stefan]

>> The problem with tmm is that it uses the menu entry's first char as "the key
>> to hit to select the entry".  But this doesn't work well in case where you
>> don't know how to input this char.  We could restrict tmm to only use ASCII
>> chars for those things, but it might be inconvenient in some cases.

> I thought that's what I said, but I don't think insisting on ASCII
> selectors is much of a loss.

I guess you're right.

>> But the change I posted (which basically moves the unicode char to the end
>> of the entry's text) works as well and I think putting the char in the
>> "short cut key" section makes a lot of sense regardless of the problem
>> w.r.t tmm.

> It may be more logical, but I think it's significantly easier to use
> with the symbols at the left, and it just makes more sense to mkake a
> general fix.

I didn't intend it as an alternative to fixing tmm.

I just find the symbols-as-hotkey to make more sense: after all, if you can
generate the proper char (via an XIM input method, for example or by
binding a key to the right keysym), you'll indeed get the same result, so it
is not an abuse of the "hotkey".

In a sense, it's just working around the fact that there is only one command
for all char insertions, so the automatic hotkey computation can't work
for those, which is why we have to do it manually.

Maybe it's indeed easier for some people if the symbol is on the left-hand
side rather than on the right-hand side (and inside parenthese), but
I strongly suspect it's just a question of habit.

>> I don't know what you're referring to.  I can't remember Richard rejecting
>> the idea of multilingual menus.

> That's why the maths-menu code didn't get included.  As far as I
> remember, the issue was that it didn't work with Xt menus.

I didn't know about that, but if he rejected maths-menu because of lack for
non-ASCII support in the Lucid menu, he'd presumably not oppose a patch that
adds support for non-ASCII support (and indeed he didn't oppose it).


        Stefan