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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Skeleton GNU/Linux


From: Jean Louis
Subject: Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Skeleton GNU/Linux
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 01:09:43 +0200

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:49:35PM +0100, Zlatan Todoric wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/10/2016 11:26 PM, Jean Louis wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 05:09:52PM -0500, Matt Lee wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Jean Louis <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I am glad for that. Personally, I am avoiding it due to larger size,
> > > > and compiling taking time. I am using now Dillo, Xombrero, uzbl and
> > > > surf.
> > > > 
> > > > uzbl is in particular very usable.
> > > I'm not going to ask our users to use one of those.
> > > uzbl doesn't have an address bar to enter a URL.
> > > 
> > > We'll ship Chromium with some fixes to make it compliant, or possibly
> > > Firefox with fixes.
> > But please uzbl has address bar to enter the URL. It is just not up,
> > it is down. I am entering URLs in uzbl address bar all the times. And
> > what is really nice with uzbl, you can make your own address bar in
> > any way you like, enter it, and pipe it to the browser (users would
> > not know it if you wish so).
> 
> Cool, just recently Internet Explorer stopped being the most used browser
> (replaced by Google Chrome) and you're suggesting uzbl. User-friendly is not
> your stronger side? I mean, yea, lets take uzbl, explain to users that bar
> is down and that, they can make their own address bar in any way they like
> and pipe it to browser. I see hundreds of millions moving to uzbl as we
> speak.
> 
> I am really not sure are you just being sarcastic at this moment as I can't
> get this seriously.

I have reviewed your website with uzbl browser. http://www.uzbl.org -
it is excellent browser, serving all my needs. Very customizable and
powerful. You have not obviously tried it and could not understand it.

I am user, so it is very user friendly to me. The sources, with the
build are just 12 MB, that is also very user friendly, considering,
that Internet connection in Africa is not as good as yours. Even
compiling of Chrome or IceCat, is simply going to fail, if I am not
running on solar powered battery, as there are often power outages
here.

Small browser with few configuration files and perfectly customizable,
with high privacy levels, seem to be very user friendly.

Yes, we shall teach users how to use computing tools, software and how
to become programmers. I am not somebody who likes leaving users in a
stage of not knowing what they can do with a computer and software.

With 17 years I have been giving courses in computer programming
languages such as Logo and BASIC, not far from your birth place, and
people from that computer club have advanced in life as programmers.

Finally, average Tanzanian, working here in my company, learns Emacs
tutorial within 60 minutes, and uzbl within 5 minutes. Even if those
people don't have much access to computer otherwise.

Tomorrow, I will test uzbl on a new person, and I will see how fast
that person can learn to use it, and will let you know.

Jean Louis



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