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Re: [Gzz] Space in RDF structure


From: Benja Fallenstein
Subject: Re: [Gzz] Space in RDF structure
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:23:40 +0100
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Tuukka Hastrup wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Benja Fallenstein wrote:

I'm trying to figure out how to create a feel of space in an RDF structure, even though the structure can be very dense and the same nodes are shown many times when we traverse the structure more than one hop. I fear that without spatiality it won't be easy to navigate in the structure. Excplicit spatiality is an option in PP type applications.

How about simply turning off most of the properties most of the time, as in zzstructure where only 2-3 dimensions are shown at once? E.g. if you only turn on the properties making up a list/tree, then you will be able to browse that list/tree quite naturally.


I'm referring more to the Euclidean geometry of the structure: We talked about zzstructure being "locally Euclidean" (if you could say so of a discrete structure), and I don't see how we can provide for that in RDF. RDF property simply isn't a dimension. For instance, you could've built grids and cubes in plain zzstructure.

Hmm, not sure what locally Euclidean means. I would understand layouting the connections in a wheel around the focus as locally Euclidean... But you cannot build grids and cubes with it, that's true.

I guess I don't see it as that important. But we'll see, maybe you're right.

Of course in RDF, we could limit some properties to have the limit of single statement per node.

You have to be careful that the views don't step on the patent, then.

Instead of turning off most of the properties most of the time, a bigger impact I didn't previously realise is in only showing each node only once per view. That's what we did also in Gzz. I presume this helps with many RDF structures.

Note that we did it in Gzz because we couldn't do better. ZigZag does it differently.

-b.






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